1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:01,579 per month may notice reduce beats video 2 00:00:04,970 --> 00:00:03,330 streams DUP 240p no tethering see store 3 00:00:06,140 --> 00:00:04,980 for details in terms and conditions good 4 00:00:07,820 --> 00:00:06,150 evening everyone and welcome to mak 5 00:00:09,919 --> 00:00:07,830 mommy's milk ranch-style show here on 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:09,929 the distant thunder radio and network 7 00:00:13,940 --> 00:00:12,090 hey this is Mack Bologna and we are 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:13,950 gonna be doing a special show tonight 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:17,490 the show is going to be about this 10 00:00:22,580 --> 00:00:19,650 recently revealed Pentagon program 11 00:00:24,349 --> 00:00:22,590 having to do with studying UFOs what it 12 00:00:26,660 --> 00:00:24,359 really means is this like the big 13 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:26,670 breakthrough everyone's been waiting for 14 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:30,510 or is it just a case of maybe a Senator 15 00:00:34,580 --> 00:00:32,369 somewhere greasing a friend of his to 16 00:00:36,860 --> 00:00:34,590 the tomb of 22 million dollars I hope 17 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:36,870 it's number one but you know sometimes 18 00:00:42,860 --> 00:00:38,550 in life things turned out to be number 19 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:42,870 two anyway joining us for this special 20 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:46,020 occasion of course is come in the Cobra 21 00:00:51,709 --> 00:00:49,250 good evening Mack okay you are in your 22 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:51,719 undisclosed location undisclosed 23 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:53,610 location tonight that is correct 24 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:55,920 you know what what an interesting ride 25 00:00:59,840 --> 00:00:58,050 has been with this with this breaking 26 00:01:02,090 --> 00:00:59,850 piece of the program it's been all over 27 00:01:05,450 --> 00:01:02,100 the place right I'll bet you know the 28 00:01:08,649 --> 00:01:05,460 thing is we should say though upfront 29 00:01:11,630 --> 00:01:08,659 that we're gonna be one one west tonight 30 00:01:14,359 --> 00:01:11,640 he is out on his own secret mission 31 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:14,369 raising funds to stop the program again 32 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:16,650 to stop this UFO investigation program 33 00:01:21,020 --> 00:01:18,450 again he said I'll be standing on a 34 00:01:23,899 --> 00:01:21,030 street corner in Boston trying to raise 35 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:23,909 funds so the stresses Brady I understand 36 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:25,890 is now Young's doing well you know he 37 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:27,960 usually does dresses Brady so you know 38 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:30,960 why I changed now anyway one one won't 39 00:01:36,530 --> 00:01:34,170 be joining us but switchblade Steve will 40 00:01:39,260 --> 00:01:36,540 be calling him later on and also Emily M 41 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:39,270 and we're just gonna talk about what 42 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:41,970 this means you know and when I first saw 43 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:44,070 it I'm sure you felt the same way car 44 00:01:49,219 --> 00:01:46,380 where was like I said well you know 45 00:01:52,429 --> 00:01:49,229 finally you know finally because for 46 00:01:54,530 --> 00:01:52,439 years the US military the Pentagon has 47 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:54,540 just been denying that they you don't 48 00:02:03,139 --> 00:01:59,600 pay any interest at all in UFOs their 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:03,149 project Bluebook ended in 1967 it was 50 00:02:08,270 --> 00:02:05,850 started in the early 50s that what they 51 00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:08,280 were supposedly looking into UFOs but it 52 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:10,679 turned out to be more of a smokescreen 53 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:11,730 than anything else 54 00:02:16,990 --> 00:02:13,890 Emily M is gonna be talking about 55 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:17,000 on the show and then from that point on 56 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:20,610 up until just now just in the past week 57 00:02:28,220 --> 00:02:24,959 or so the US military has just denied 58 00:02:30,949 --> 00:02:28,230 denied denied that they ever looked into 59 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:30,959 UFOs after 1967 saying it wasn't a 60 00:02:37,670 --> 00:02:33,450 security threat and now that all turns 61 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:37,680 out to be a lie I know you shocked this 62 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:39,090 development and hopefully it hasn't 63 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:42,209 rattled your your sense of understanding 64 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:44,370 of the workings of government which I 65 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:46,410 feel we need to bring in Bismarck who 66 00:02:49,910 --> 00:02:47,760 said that the more he understood what 67 00:02:53,210 --> 00:02:49,920 went into sausage and goes into 68 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:53,220 government how we like both less so ok 69 00:03:00,320 --> 00:02:55,650 right there class up the show with AB is 70 00:03:02,509 --> 00:03:00,330 marking the whole yeah ok you know you 71 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:02,519 know what it means though that whenever 72 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:04,980 we said this magic words I'm going 73 00:03:18,979 --> 00:03:14,760 through my briefcase we have to Cobra 74 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:18,989 you caught me I'm on here well do you 75 00:03:23,660 --> 00:03:21,510 have you us I don't know if I do I don't 76 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:23,670 I I'm sure there is I always have one 77 00:03:29,870 --> 00:03:27,780 okay yeah I said a prayer to Saint Saint 78 00:03:32,870 --> 00:03:29,880 Francis is he the young the Saint you 79 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:32,880 pray to when you lose things Saint 80 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:35,190 Anthony Anthony yeah okay here we go 81 00:03:43,250 --> 00:03:42,180 wow you mention sizes so anyway see you 82 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:43,260 thought we were gonna be serious tonight 83 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:43,769 right 84 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:46,890 we are you this is this is masterpiece 85 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:49,890 theater for you we have Jeff put some 86 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:51,510 music in them at the mess apiece there 87 00:03:56,180 --> 00:03:54,209 anyway alright so let's get serious I 88 00:03:58,370 --> 00:03:56,190 mean you know basically what has 89 00:04:00,380 --> 00:03:58,380 happened and I'll just it's really out 90 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:00,390 there you know and it's got a lot of 91 00:04:05,810 --> 00:04:03,720 press this week it was revealed by the 92 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:05,820 New York Times three reporters than the 93 00:04:09,590 --> 00:04:07,500 neck times that there has been this 94 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:09,600 there was the secret program that was 95 00:04:15,710 --> 00:04:11,609 going on for it sounds like about a 96 00:04:18,740 --> 00:04:15,720 dozen years in which the eff was created 97 00:04:22,610 --> 00:04:18,750 a department the unit or whatever to 98 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:22,620 look into UFO reports once again telling 99 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:24,030 us that they weren't doing this but in 100 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:27,690 fact now they've revealed they did the 101 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:29,910 funding for this thing was secret it was 102 00:04:35,210 --> 00:04:32,160 a black lap but it came at the urging of 103 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:35,220 Harry Reid who was descended there 104 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:37,590 Democratic Senate a long time in Nevada 105 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:39,570 and I'll say a lot of this stuff goes on 106 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:42,510 out and about a lot of testing of new 107 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:45,930 weapons and so on so he's you have to 108 00:04:49,010 --> 00:04:47,370 assume that he knows you know maybe a 109 00:04:51,950 --> 00:04:49,020 little bit more about things like this 110 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:51,960 then let's say some senator from 111 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:52,710 Delaware 112 00:04:58,940 --> 00:04:56,130 anyway he arranged twenty-two million 113 00:05:03,680 --> 00:04:58,950 dollars for this study to this program 114 00:05:05,810 --> 00:05:03,690 to you know be birthed and then when the 115 00:05:07,820 --> 00:05:05,820 story came out in the New York Times it 116 00:05:09,530 --> 00:05:07,830 turns out that they had footage one of 117 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:09,540 the things they did release was footage 118 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:13,320 shot by two f-18s in the early 2000s out 119 00:05:20,450 --> 00:05:16,500 over the Pacific of this what looks like 120 00:05:24,530 --> 00:05:20,460 a spinning top a kids top flying and 121 00:05:27,020 --> 00:05:24,540 really great speed and they are tracking 122 00:05:29,210 --> 00:05:27,030 it and you see one of them on the a chu 123 00:05:31,190 --> 00:05:29,220 heads-up display will have Cobra explain 124 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:31,200 that in a minute but you see one of them 125 00:05:35,210 --> 00:05:32,970 in this kind of video but you can hear 126 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:35,220 the pilot saying there's a whole fleet 127 00:05:40,250 --> 00:05:37,650 of these things and there's also a US 128 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:40,260 USO Commission to this because the 129 00:05:43,190 --> 00:05:42,090 actually spotted this thing from the 130 00:05:45,050 --> 00:05:43,200 sounds of it sounds like they were 131 00:05:48,650 --> 00:05:45,060 spotted coming out of the water so 132 00:05:49,730 --> 00:05:48,660 basically you know where we have you 133 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:49,740 know it's been revealed that the 134 00:05:54,620 --> 00:05:52,290 Pentagon indeed does have did have a 135 00:05:57,470 --> 00:05:54,630 program looking at UFOs up until 136 00:06:00,170 --> 00:05:57,480 recently and that you know they have 137 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:00,180 footage the Navy has this footage which 138 00:06:06,860 --> 00:06:03,510 they released and the reason that the 139 00:06:09,190 --> 00:06:06,870 program ended or one of the reasons was 140 00:06:15,260 --> 00:06:09,200 that the guy who was in charge of it 141 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:15,270 resigned because he said number one most 142 00:06:19,970 --> 00:06:16,820 of the stuff that they hadn't remain 143 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:19,980 remains classified and number two he 144 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:21,090 said there was opposition in the 145 00:06:25,730 --> 00:06:23,160 Pentagon about funding this thing which 146 00:06:28,490 --> 00:06:25,740 is 22 million dollars now Cobra I just 147 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:28,500 got off the phone with X before we went 148 00:06:33,170 --> 00:06:30,570 on the air and I brought up that idea 149 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:33,180 that you know 22 million dollars people 150 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:35,370 complaining about 20 million twenty two 151 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:36,930 million dollars being spent on this and 152 00:06:41,450 --> 00:06:39,840 he said the Air Force spends twenty two 153 00:06:45,969 --> 00:06:41,460 million dollars a year on their golf 154 00:06:48,770 --> 00:06:45,979 courses okay so I think that that 155 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:48,780 statement is disingenuous what this guy 156 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:51,690 was saying because if you have had a 157 00:06:57,170 --> 00:06:53,849 program that where it's resulted in a 158 00:06:59,570 --> 00:06:57,180 lot of stuff that you feel has to be 159 00:07:01,809 --> 00:06:59,580 classified stay classified what do you 160 00:07:06,170 --> 00:07:01,819 complain in about 22 million dollars for 161 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:06,180 well it's not inconsequential money but 162 00:07:11,719 --> 00:07:10,110 in the scheme of the scale of things 163 00:07:14,629 --> 00:07:11,729 that are spent it is a drop in the 164 00:07:15,890 --> 00:07:14,639 bucket so X is correct I think the big 165 00:07:20,210 --> 00:07:15,900 issue that's gonna come up about the 166 00:07:22,909 --> 00:07:20,220 money is why did 22 million a fairly low 167 00:07:25,490 --> 00:07:22,919 amount get pumped into a pentacon 168 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:25,500 project that had a you know ahead of 169 00:07:32,659 --> 00:07:28,710 that that that particular program 170 00:07:35,570 --> 00:07:32,669 division it's not a lot of money it went 171 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:35,580 to a person that's going to do study of 172 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:38,490 it one of the reasons that if some flags 173 00:07:41,930 --> 00:07:40,050 have gone up for a number of folks is 174 00:07:45,620 --> 00:07:41,940 that black program money doesn't require 175 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:45,630 any oversight and you basically are 176 00:07:50,210 --> 00:07:47,130 writing a check out of the magic 177 00:07:51,860 --> 00:07:50,220 checkbook for that that's how many like 178 00:07:53,629 --> 00:07:51,870 foreign aircraft have been bought when a 179 00:07:56,180 --> 00:07:53,639 deal has had to be made you know to get 180 00:07:57,860 --> 00:07:56,190 people to or from a location right they 181 00:07:59,029 --> 00:07:57,870 go and they they'll they they get that 182 00:08:01,430 --> 00:07:59,039 money they move it doesn't need 183 00:08:03,140 --> 00:08:01,440 oversight because ultimately there's a 184 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:03,150 budget that's attached to and you have 185 00:08:06,260 --> 00:08:04,889 discretionary spending out that and you 186 00:08:08,719 --> 00:08:06,270 don't tell anybody and you don't want 187 00:08:11,149 --> 00:08:08,729 the enemy quote-unquote to know that 188 00:08:12,980 --> 00:08:11,159 that money is being spent so for a small 189 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:12,990 amount of money for the overall budget 190 00:08:17,570 --> 00:08:15,090 but going to an individual to study and 191 00:08:18,830 --> 00:08:17,580 then not having any kind of and this is 192 00:08:20,540 --> 00:08:18,840 one of the things that's always 193 00:08:22,730 --> 00:08:20,550 critiqued on black program spending 194 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:22,740 what's the results what was what were 195 00:08:25,969 --> 00:08:24,479 they looking for when's a report going 196 00:08:29,839 --> 00:08:25,979 to come out what's going to be the end 197 00:08:31,730 --> 00:08:29,849 result of this so that that's part of it 198 00:08:34,610 --> 00:08:31,740 and the fact that that was even brought 199 00:08:36,469 --> 00:08:34,620 up is probably attached to the names of 200 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:36,479 the the people that are involved because 201 00:08:44,510 --> 00:08:40,529 like all politicians right now there's a 202 00:08:45,949 --> 00:08:44,520 lot of dubious activity that has gone on 203 00:08:48,170 --> 00:08:45,959 is that a nice way for me to put it in 204 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:48,180 the season that were that we're in yeah 205 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:52,560 you to caddy on this so it sounds like 206 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:55,040 this was a very eye 207 00:08:58,210 --> 00:08:56,959 can tell you right now that 22 million 208 00:08:59,800 --> 00:08:58,220 if it was dropped on some of the 209 00:09:01,569 --> 00:08:59,810 projects I had worked on at small 210 00:09:03,579 --> 00:09:01,579 companies would have been like the 211 00:09:05,259 --> 00:09:03,589 second coming yes because it would have 212 00:09:06,999 --> 00:09:05,269 carried almost a year and a half's worth 213 00:09:09,460 --> 00:09:07,009 of test-flying for some of the vehicles 214 00:09:10,689 --> 00:09:09,470 that we were involved ok so 22 million 215 00:09:12,730 --> 00:09:10,699 that goes to an individual that you 216 00:09:15,550 --> 00:09:12,740 don't know and it hasn't been made clear 217 00:09:17,439 --> 00:09:15,560 what's going on with a provocative 218 00:09:20,439 --> 00:09:17,449 senators name that's involved with this 219 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:20,449 with no previous documented statements 220 00:09:27,670 --> 00:09:24,230 about the UFO phenomena nothing in 221 00:09:29,199 --> 00:09:27,680 particular that's gone on with the with 222 00:09:30,850 --> 00:09:29,209 the Pentagon in the past that he had a 223 00:09:32,110 --> 00:09:30,860 very good relationship to certain ones 224 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:32,120 that have had it there's certain ones 225 00:09:36,879 --> 00:09:34,850 have been identified with it it rose a 226 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:36,889 lot I personally think that this piece 227 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:39,769 is a little bit of disinformation it's a 228 00:09:45,550 --> 00:09:42,529 little bit of throwing in some extra 229 00:09:49,210 --> 00:09:45,560 static to cover up whatever is truthful 230 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:49,220 or whatever in the in the the footage 231 00:09:53,889 --> 00:09:51,410 also I'd like to add that some of the 232 00:09:56,710 --> 00:09:53,899 footage has been corrected the some of 233 00:09:58,930 --> 00:09:56,720 the stuff that was said verbally okay go 234 00:10:00,009 --> 00:09:58,940 ahead one of them the corrections that 235 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:00,019 came up in the New York Times because 236 00:10:03,460 --> 00:10:01,970 I've reviewed the tape a number of times 237 00:10:04,990 --> 00:10:03,470 and I've got friends that tell me look 238 00:10:07,090 --> 00:10:05,000 you're just looking at another f-18 I 239 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:07,100 got other ones saying that no this is it 240 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:09,050 doesn't match and there's all kinds of 241 00:10:12,610 --> 00:10:11,120 descriptions going on it no question in 242 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:12,620 my mind that the film has been dumbed 243 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:14,360 down that they have played in that HUD 244 00:10:18,430 --> 00:10:16,250 description as their heads up display 245 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:18,440 and that heads-up displays like a plate 246 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:21,529 that shows up on the cockpit instrument 247 00:10:26,139 --> 00:10:24,290 panel area it's used to help target 248 00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:26,149 and tell you what their status is it 249 00:10:29,110 --> 00:10:27,740 gives you indications and also tells you 250 00:10:30,939 --> 00:10:29,120 what's going on to aircraft it can also 251 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:30,949 be on the new on the newer aircraft it's 252 00:10:34,030 --> 00:10:32,600 on your helmet so while you're moving 253 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:34,040 your head you can see some of it can be 254 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:36,560 in both locations if it's a two-seat 255 00:10:40,929 --> 00:10:38,930 aircraft the operator in the back 256 00:10:42,939 --> 00:10:40,939 usually has a larger screen for 257 00:10:44,829 --> 00:10:42,949 targeting and it's all recorded 258 00:10:47,410 --> 00:10:44,839 digitally and then it's moved around 259 00:10:49,569 --> 00:10:47,420 just like any other digital image right 260 00:10:51,939 --> 00:10:49,579 the old days it was put on tape right 261 00:10:54,699 --> 00:10:51,949 it's it's oh they don't keep how do what 262 00:10:56,110 --> 00:10:54,709 do they do they just in the image now on 263 00:11:00,009 --> 00:10:56,120 a digital recording goes onto like a 264 00:11:02,710 --> 00:11:00,019 card or series of card okay because I'm 265 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:02,720 sorry I was just gonna say one said this 266 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:07,490 is excells a drone bro not not 267 00:11:12,730 --> 00:11:09,050 it's a ex 268 00:11:15,490 --> 00:11:12,740 to going on what it is expletive going 269 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:15,500 on bro also a pilot said the wind is 120 270 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:17,810 knots to the west not the wind is 120 271 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:21,190 miles to the west okay 272 00:11:27,460 --> 00:11:25,250 it's so very interesting the I want to 273 00:11:31,210 --> 00:11:27,470 well first of all HUD you know the way 274 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:31,220 that I've always thought of HUDs is if 275 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:32,810 you can imagine you're driving down 276 00:11:36,519 --> 00:11:34,880 you're in your car and there's another 277 00:11:38,199 --> 00:11:36,529 screen on your windshield in this town 278 00:11:39,610 --> 00:11:38,209 you know how fast you're going how much 279 00:11:41,380 --> 00:11:39,620 gas you have and stuff like that 280 00:11:42,490 --> 00:11:41,390 actually made some cars that had that 281 00:11:44,230 --> 00:11:42,500 system okay 282 00:11:46,210 --> 00:11:44,240 it makes the pilot the fighter pod so he 283 00:11:48,190 --> 00:11:46,220 isn't client looking down at his 284 00:11:50,110 --> 00:11:48,200 controls he can just like look straight 285 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:50,120 ahead he'll know like you say the status 286 00:11:54,250 --> 00:11:52,610 of the of the airplane so when you see 287 00:11:57,819 --> 00:11:54,260 it in what happened is when this story 288 00:12:00,220 --> 00:11:57,829 came out then these two videos featuring 289 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:00,230 these two Navy pilots they also came out 290 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:02,450 and they look like it looks like a 291 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:05,570 really bad video but what I thought I 292 00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:07,310 would do is let me really quickly just 293 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:09,920 read the first two or three sentences of 294 00:12:13,630 --> 00:12:11,810 this story so people out there who might 295 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:13,640 have missed it I will know we're talking 296 00:12:17,650 --> 00:12:16,160 about this came out last week from the 297 00:12:19,449 --> 00:12:17,660 New York Times it says in the six 298 00:12:22,210 --> 00:12:19,459 hundred billion annual defense 299 00:12:24,190 --> 00:12:22,220 department budgets 220 million was spent 300 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:24,200 on advanced aerospace threat 301 00:12:29,319 --> 00:12:26,510 identification program and is almost 302 00:12:31,540 --> 00:12:29,329 impossible to find which is now our 303 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:31,550 Pentagon wanted it for years the program 304 00:12:35,380 --> 00:12:33,170 investigated reports of unidentified 305 00:12:37,569 --> 00:12:35,390 flying objects according to the Defense 306 00:12:39,130 --> 00:12:37,579 Department official interviews of 307 00:12:41,319 --> 00:12:39,140 program participants and records 308 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:41,329 obtained by the New York Times it was 309 00:12:46,750 --> 00:12:43,250 run by a military intelligence official 310 00:12:49,210 --> 00:12:46,760 Wenzhou and zeldo on the fifth floor of 311 00:12:51,430 --> 00:12:49,220 the Pentagon Sebring cobra deep within 312 00:12:53,650 --> 00:12:51,440 the building's maze the Defense 313 00:12:55,660 --> 00:12:53,660 Department is never before Agha's the 314 00:13:00,699 --> 00:12:55,670 existence of the program which it says 315 00:13:03,610 --> 00:13:00,709 it shut down in 2012 so basically that's 316 00:13:06,420 --> 00:13:03,620 the story the the lead of the onion time 317 00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:06,430 story you have these videos from these 318 00:13:12,009 --> 00:13:10,100 f-18 pilots who one of the things I was 319 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:12,019 talking X about is that somehow or other 320 00:13:16,060 --> 00:13:14,510 yeah he and his buddies there where he 321 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:16,070 works checked out these guys and said 322 00:13:20,290 --> 00:13:17,810 these guys are rock-solid especially the 323 00:13:21,090 --> 00:13:20,300 guy who's been on TV he retired some 324 00:13:23,610 --> 00:13:21,100 time 325 00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:23,620 after this encounter but he comes across 326 00:13:28,350 --> 00:13:26,230 as a guy who you know he's a fighter 327 00:13:30,030 --> 00:13:28,360 pilot he's kind of a soft-spoken fighter 328 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:30,040 pilot but you can tell that you know he 329 00:13:34,410 --> 00:13:32,350 has the right stuff let's say and you 330 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:34,420 know he's talking about it from he says 331 00:13:37,830 --> 00:13:36,010 I wish I could fly something like this 332 00:13:40,050 --> 00:13:37,840 people who were saying well this is a 333 00:13:42,990 --> 00:13:40,060 drone you know whether you have to 334 00:13:44,430 --> 00:13:43,000 remember that you know in Cobra you or 335 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:44,440 someone you know who falls into this 336 00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:46,890 category people who fly for the military 337 00:13:51,450 --> 00:13:49,990 see this case Ethan's in the sky all the 338 00:13:53,370 --> 00:13:51,460 time they see so many things they 339 00:13:56,340 --> 00:13:53,380 basically know that's the moon that's 340 00:13:58,020 --> 00:13:56,350 Venus that's this that's that and I 341 00:14:00,480 --> 00:13:58,030 think that any fighter pilot any 342 00:14:02,490 --> 00:14:00,490 military pilot with some time under his 343 00:14:03,870 --> 00:14:02,500 belt if he comes out and says I don't 344 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:03,880 know what this thing is I tend to 345 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:06,160 believe him sure I mean there's 346 00:14:13,470 --> 00:14:10,450 definitely the possibility is wide open 347 00:14:15,750 --> 00:14:13,480 to all that but I think to be fair the 348 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:15,760 possibility that it could be a 349 00:14:22,110 --> 00:14:19,570 terrestrial vehicle that was we just had 350 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:22,120 it not but what three weeks ago four 351 00:14:25,830 --> 00:14:23,920 weeks old the unidentified vehicle that 352 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:25,840 they launched f-15s out of Oregon to go 353 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:28,240 chase down and in flew and they couldn't 354 00:14:32,370 --> 00:14:30,130 find it and then it was like Keystone 355 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:32,380 Cops the way it was reported no one for 356 00:14:35,310 --> 00:14:33,910 sure what's happened that they get they 357 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:35,320 got the wrong factor they couldn't find 358 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:36,610 it they went the wrong direction but 359 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:38,770 they did launch airplanes for it mm-hmm 360 00:14:42,510 --> 00:14:40,570 you know I think in that one almost 361 00:14:46,860 --> 00:14:42,520 everybody's convinced that it's either a 362 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:46,870 you have an unmanned combat aerial 363 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:49,450 vehicle that probably went off it's test 364 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:53,170 part got lost was on its you know on its 365 00:14:56,580 --> 00:14:55,210 recovery flight path and then they were 366 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:56,590 able to get control of it and bring it 367 00:15:03,060 --> 00:14:58,450 back or it knew what to do at a certain 368 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:03,070 point in this particular case that this 369 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:04,930 fits that template but there's some 370 00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:06,730 other things that are going on with it 371 00:15:11,190 --> 00:15:08,800 the way it's maneuvering the way it's 372 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:11,200 flipping itself around how it's reported 373 00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:12,880 so what you were saying about the HUD 374 00:15:18,180 --> 00:15:16,300 the HUD allows the the fighter crew the 375 00:15:20,220 --> 00:15:18,190 fighter pilot or if it's a two manned 376 00:15:23,570 --> 00:15:20,230 aircraft it allows them to continue to 377 00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:23,580 look outside while still having a 378 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:26,140 resource to control and see what their 379 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:29,680 different parts and pieces are doing on 380 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:31,090 the aircraft like the radar in the 381 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:34,090 infrared tracking systems and things of 382 00:15:37,319 --> 00:15:35,110 that nature with how the what 383 00:15:39,690 --> 00:15:37,329 and system is lined up and it records 384 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:39,700 all those things going on so they are 385 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:42,010 looking at both those parts that's why 386 00:15:46,050 --> 00:15:43,810 the picture looks poor I've seen plenty 387 00:15:47,579 --> 00:15:46,060 of hug films where you got back the way 388 00:15:49,620 --> 00:15:47,589 the Sun reflected off of it and how it 389 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:49,630 worked right and you put the verbage and 390 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:51,880 this is why the the audio part can be so 391 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:54,010 important because it can be more 392 00:15:57,389 --> 00:15:55,839 important than the pictures because you 393 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:57,399 like you said you have a qualified 394 00:16:01,530 --> 00:15:59,050 person that's describing what's going on 395 00:16:04,610 --> 00:16:01,540 that seems to be jumbled that seems to 396 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:04,620 have some some some weird aspects to it 397 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:06,970 one person told me well they sound way 398 00:16:10,139 --> 00:16:08,230 too much like they watch too many 399 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:10,149 episodes a Top Gun the way they're 400 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:11,890 talking I know lots of folks that talk 401 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:13,810 that way I know all the folks they talk 402 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:16,720 very very strict they follow them a much 403 00:16:21,269 --> 00:16:19,120 more Cody right yeah yeah one of them 404 00:16:23,340 --> 00:16:21,279 says look at that dude yeah you can say 405 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:23,350 Wow okay fighter pilots call each other 406 00:16:29,569 --> 00:16:25,440 dude but yes that's that's top gonna 407 00:16:32,370 --> 00:16:29,579 surest now let me ask you this though so 408 00:16:34,199 --> 00:16:32,380 from so from that angle let's say that 409 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:34,209 that is the case okay that this is 410 00:16:37,530 --> 00:16:36,010 something that you know it's birth made 411 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:37,540 that is something you know that we've 412 00:16:43,769 --> 00:16:41,050 made it but is it the case of let's say 413 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:43,779 with these f15 pilots did someone call 414 00:16:49,410 --> 00:16:46,480 them and say hey listen this highly 415 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:49,420 classified program involving an Erica 416 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:51,370 vehicle is coming your way you have to 417 00:16:54,930 --> 00:16:54,430 go find it or are they are they not in 418 00:16:57,569 --> 00:16:54,940 the loop 419 00:16:59,040 --> 00:16:57,579 it appears to me back the way this was 420 00:17:01,650 --> 00:16:59,050 said they were doing their work ups with 421 00:17:03,210 --> 00:17:01,660 the Nimitz carrier group and I am i all 422 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:03,220 my deep respect I was on the Nimitz 423 00:17:09,870 --> 00:17:07,449 during the first Gulf War great ship and 424 00:17:12,809 --> 00:17:09,880 continues to have a storied history and 425 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:12,819 career so they were out working one of 426 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:16,480 their ships further out in that carrier 427 00:17:21,630 --> 00:17:20,079 task force had had control of the 428 00:17:23,789 --> 00:17:21,640 tactical air control the airspace at 429 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:23,799 some point and saw this couple cruising 430 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,600 it had it if you go in and this is the 431 00:17:30,330 --> 00:17:27,760 other part the stories have changed or 432 00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:30,340 had been edited a couple times the first 433 00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:32,080 one I read on Saturday afternoon 434 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:34,540 Saturday night had more raw information 435 00:17:41,730 --> 00:17:37,330 and then it kept changing working itself 436 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:41,740 back it's been edited and cleaned up a 437 00:17:45,390 --> 00:17:43,120 little bit and it's writing and it may 438 00:17:48,450 --> 00:17:45,400 be a little bit more sensational or a 439 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:48,460 little more XY lush and it's handling on 440 00:17:52,610 --> 00:17:50,380 right but this ship called their 441 00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:52,620 attention to it they vectored over to it 442 00:17:56,190 --> 00:17:54,880 whoever was controlling them while they 443 00:17:58,050 --> 00:17:56,200 were doing whatever maneuvers they were 444 00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:58,060 doing goods a combination of probably 445 00:18:03,930 --> 00:18:01,360 practicing some kind of air-to-surface 446 00:18:05,340 --> 00:18:03,940 air-to-air combat and then i'm gonna go 447 00:18:06,690 --> 00:18:05,350 back and do their landing on the ship 448 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:06,700 they were getting ready for a deployment 449 00:18:12,990 --> 00:18:10,000 they went over they were asked if they 450 00:18:14,670 --> 00:18:13,000 had any live weapons on their aircraft 451 00:18:16,770 --> 00:18:14,680 and they come back and tell them no we 452 00:18:19,050 --> 00:18:16,780 only have our training weapons which are 453 00:18:22,140 --> 00:18:19,060 basically one of our stories that you 454 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:22,150 had early in the year a training warhead 455 00:18:28,050 --> 00:18:23,470 remember the one that showed up in Cuba 456 00:18:29,550 --> 00:18:28,060 oh yeah by mistake you just got mailed 457 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:29,560 there from the show I don't know how 458 00:18:36,420 --> 00:18:34,810 that that's why you use FedEx it's it's 459 00:18:39,540 --> 00:18:36,430 guaranteed to be there overnight but hug 460 00:18:42,660 --> 00:18:39,550 them as a sponsor I guess but they 461 00:18:44,430 --> 00:18:42,670 worked up to this and this is where they 462 00:18:46,650 --> 00:18:44,440 got the footage of it and everyone's 463 00:18:49,650 --> 00:18:46,660 talking in that part as it was reported 464 00:18:52,380 --> 00:18:49,660 as a we don't know what's going on here 465 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:52,390 then you add in the other layers of it 466 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:54,430 it's activity close to the surface of 467 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:55,810 the water what they think they see it 468 00:18:59,130 --> 00:18:57,610 doing the way it's behaving in the 469 00:19:01,950 --> 00:18:59,140 flight the way it seems to accelerate 470 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:01,960 and move that to me is very very 471 00:19:06,180 --> 00:19:04,180 important information because as you 472 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:06,190 have said these guys are very qualified 473 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:09,730 experts yep in pulling G's and getting 474 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:11,530 themselves into position so that they 475 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:13,030 can do the business of what their 476 00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:15,070 aircraft is designed to do right and 477 00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:17,800 that as we've said in the past fighter 478 00:19:22,740 --> 00:19:20,140 pilots are not easily impressed just 479 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:22,750 that right yeah sure I mean you know and 480 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:25,200 and at the f-18 so like the hottest 481 00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:27,850 airplane that the Navy has its you know 482 00:19:32,130 --> 00:19:29,200 when these planes they can do just about 483 00:19:33,870 --> 00:19:32,140 anything and is just really you know 484 00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:33,880 kind of an awesome fight a plane and so 485 00:19:37,290 --> 00:19:36,160 if you're if you wind up flying one of 486 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:37,300 these things you know you're gonna be 487 00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:41,050 really the tip of the top and and it 488 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:42,910 does that is another interesting aspect 489 00:19:50,850 --> 00:19:47,260 was the the USO aspect of it but I have 490 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:50,860 to ask you you said that you saw this 491 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:53,200 video for the first time Saturday night 492 00:19:59,790 --> 00:19:56,410 yes okay weren't you here drinking with 493 00:20:01,620 --> 00:19:59,800 me and Agent X and I'm saying yeah I was 494 00:20:02,340 --> 00:20:01,630 in the Saturday afternoon when I sent 495 00:20:03,539 --> 00:20:02,350 you that 496 00:20:07,950 --> 00:20:03,549 I was talking to you and I leaned over 497 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:07,960 you at the table oh did I did you read 498 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:09,490 that thing about the UFO and you said no 499 00:20:15,299 --> 00:20:11,289 I said oh I have to send it to you when 500 00:20:21,419 --> 00:20:15,309 I got home no but I sent to a couple so 501 00:20:24,450 --> 00:20:21,429 yes I can multitask I can and then I can 502 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:24,460 I can also get it to your place to enjoy 503 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:27,400 when we go out to eat we never agree on 504 00:20:31,020 --> 00:20:28,210 where to go 505 00:20:32,669 --> 00:20:31,030 what burgers pizza tacos it is the one 506 00:20:34,830 --> 00:20:32,679 thing we do agree on is we all want 507 00:20:37,919 --> 00:20:34,840 unlimited high-speed data that's why we 508 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:37,929 switch to metro pcs stop by metro pcs 509 00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:39,610 with the whole family and get four lines 510 00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:41,980 with unlimited LTE data for just $100 511 00:20:45,899 --> 00:20:44,620 period metro pcs Wireless figured out 512 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:45,909 covers not available in some areas 513 00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:46,990 offers for airport and a number not 514 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:47,950 currently active on t-mobile network 515 00:20:50,370 --> 00:20:49,120 during congestion the fraction of 516 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:50,380 customers use more than 35 gigs per 517 00:20:53,490 --> 00:20:51,760 month may notice reduce beats video 518 00:20:55,070 --> 00:20:53,500 stream step 240p no tethering C store 519 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:55,080 for details in terms and conditions a 520 00:21:00,539 --> 00:20:57,610 wonderful Festivus that we had at your 521 00:21:03,899 --> 00:21:00,549 place okay well for that I will give you 522 00:21:05,370 --> 00:21:03,909 this thank you for the gifts by the way 523 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:05,380 oh you're welcome 524 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:09,010 so anyway so this and I agree with you 525 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:11,350 100% with these pilots what they say 526 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:13,120 like if you're gonna put a story out you 527 00:21:18,990 --> 00:21:16,000 would just put up you know the fighter 528 00:21:21,060 --> 00:21:19,000 pilot and here's the HUD it was reported 529 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:21,070 you know it's um with Jason sir 530 00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:22,690 but what these guys said was that they 531 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:25,630 see it and then they see a disturbance 532 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:27,010 down in the ocean so they like 533 00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:28,840 immediately dive you know the five miles 534 00:21:35,130 --> 00:21:31,840 down and they and they can see this 535 00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:35,140 object and it to them it looks like it's 536 00:21:39,930 --> 00:21:37,600 just come out of the ocean because below 537 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:39,940 it is you don't like waves and turned up 538 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:42,610 water and turbulence and then it's gone 539 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:45,610 now now I got to tell you since I 540 00:21:50,220 --> 00:21:47,650 started reading UFO books like when I 541 00:21:53,010 --> 00:21:50,230 was a kid flying saucer books if you 542 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:53,020 really read good ones about 2/3 of about 543 00:21:57,020 --> 00:21:54,490 UFOs but then there will always be a 544 00:21:59,220 --> 00:21:57,030 chapter in there about you SOS and 545 00:22:00,690 --> 00:21:59,230 identified submerged objects and there 546 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:00,700 are many people out there who think that 547 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:02,110 these things they're not necessary from 548 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:03,610 space but somehow they come out of the 549 00:22:08,190 --> 00:22:06,070 ocean because the ocean takes up 75% of 550 00:22:10,919 --> 00:22:08,200 the planet you know there's been like 551 00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:10,929 Honda's reports and masts that he knows 552 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:14,230 that the United States Navy is working 553 00:22:17,730 --> 00:22:16,210 devices like that right now 554 00:22:18,690 --> 00:22:17,740 we know that they have undersea devices 555 00:22:20,430 --> 00:22:18,700 that they're launching and recovering 556 00:22:22,860 --> 00:22:20,440 unsub's mm-hmm 557 00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:22,870 and it's been highly suspected that they 558 00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:26,020 are doing like the the famous voyage at 559 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:27,160 the bottom of the sea that they have a 560 00:22:30,990 --> 00:22:28,810 vehicle that can go into the air and 561 00:22:33,660 --> 00:22:31,000 they come back to this up yeah cool it's 562 00:22:36,660 --> 00:22:33,670 so so what was saying is that the these 563 00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:36,670 scrambling piles are gonna Washington 564 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:38,380 just a little while ago and they've 565 00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:39,910 chased it they chased an unknown 566 00:22:46,050 --> 00:22:42,460 aircraft that landed up over California 567 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:46,060 then in towards Idaho okay is that you 568 00:22:50,010 --> 00:22:48,280 know once again our last question is is 569 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,020 that that they don't know what they're 570 00:22:54,810 --> 00:22:52,720 chasing or is that the cover story oh it 571 00:22:57,180 --> 00:22:54,820 could be both and I think here's the 572 00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:57,190 interesting thing that I want to I want 573 00:22:59,400 --> 00:22:58,240 to close this section because we're 574 00:23:02,640 --> 00:22:59,410 cutting to start and approach the 575 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:02,650 commercial break okay where are the 576 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,490 other pilots in this discussion now the 577 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:08,320 guys that have come up 578 00:23:12,030 --> 00:23:10,570 by all accounts I don't know either of 579 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:12,040 them I was hoping that I would recognize 580 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:16,000 her knew one of the two of them where 581 00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:17,650 are the other folks around them I'd even 582 00:23:20,910 --> 00:23:19,600 be interested to hear the guys that were 583 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:20,920 on the Nimitz that were in their 584 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:23,530 squadron because they one of the pieces 585 00:23:27,810 --> 00:23:25,210 that I read and I mean I've read a lot 586 00:23:29,220 --> 00:23:27,820 of these in the last 48 hours okay it 587 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:29,230 talks about them getting some ribbing 588 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:30,550 and stuff like that you know that they 589 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:31,930 got rid of what they saw and what they 590 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:35,650 chased right it just I I don't remember 591 00:23:40,050 --> 00:23:37,330 hearing much about this and this is 592 00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:40,060 usually something that doesn't just die 593 00:23:45,230 --> 00:23:42,550 if there's more to it which makes me 594 00:23:47,790 --> 00:23:45,240 think that there may have been more 595 00:23:50,460 --> 00:23:47,800 construction around how this story is 596 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:50,470 packaged and how are coming out now I'll 597 00:23:53,490 --> 00:23:51,850 say I'll leave you with this as we 598 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:53,500 approach so that you can close out this 599 00:24:00,530 --> 00:23:57,730 thing if 22 million was spent and it got 600 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:00,540 us to the point where this was leaked or 601 00:24:04,890 --> 00:24:02,770 engineered out and the New York Times 602 00:24:06,450 --> 00:24:04,900 was able to found it I think I think it 603 00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:06,460 was money where it's what well spent 604 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:10,390 right the the going back to the story of 605 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:12,850 the two Navy pilots if if you were gonna 606 00:24:17,070 --> 00:24:14,410 tell the story as I said it'd be just 607 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:17,080 like chasing or whatever but to include 608 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:18,610 this whole idea that hey maybe this 609 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:20,290 thing came out of the water that's 610 00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:23,410 something that that rings true to me you 611 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:25,270 know that resident like someone making 612 00:24:29,890 --> 00:24:28,570 it up in the fact that these guys also 613 00:24:32,770 --> 00:24:29,900 said you know 614 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:32,780 look at how fast they're going you know 615 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:35,090 how they're maneuvering there's no wind 616 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:38,720 and stuff like that you know I just 617 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:41,809 think their comments legitimate the 618 00:24:46,660 --> 00:24:45,290 question is is why now you know right 619 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:46,670 you talked about it at the at the other 620 00:24:49,180 --> 00:24:48,170 side of the commercial but you know why 621 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:49,190 why now 622 00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:53,410 I got throw one more piece at you we 623 00:24:57,580 --> 00:24:55,460 talked a lot of movies you have a 624 00:24:59,230 --> 00:24:57,590 advanced degree in the in the study of 625 00:25:02,020 --> 00:24:59,240 film that's true 626 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:02,030 we made a remark about Top Gun there's 627 00:25:07,299 --> 00:25:05,330 also a part here that is is it kept me 628 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:07,309 unsettled I haven't really said much 629 00:25:12,370 --> 00:25:09,530 about it but in the movie Independence 630 00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:12,380 Day yes a Marine fighter pilot who flew 631 00:25:15,370 --> 00:25:13,940 f-18s and could magically fly 632 00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:15,380 helicopters in that movie small 633 00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:17,480 technical issue that went on there okay 634 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:20,270 he flies the alien spaceship that was 635 00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:22,370 hidden in area 51 oh right I remember 636 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:24,470 that pod yes and why he's flying up 637 00:25:28,330 --> 00:25:26,570 there and the things whipping around he 638 00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:28,340 yells out you know and kind of a rebel 639 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:31,400 kind of yell yes oh I've got to get one 640 00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:34,910 of these okay yeah I tell you it's it's 641 00:25:40,810 --> 00:25:38,720 it's it just makes me pause because 642 00:25:43,060 --> 00:25:40,820 sometimes movies imitate life life 643 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:43,070 imitates movie sometimes movies and you 644 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:45,290 incorporate what you see but it's it's 645 00:25:50,110 --> 00:25:46,970 interesting that some of the kind of the 646 00:25:52,270 --> 00:25:50,120 canned phrases have been added into this 647 00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:52,280 an Intel buddy of mine sent me the 648 00:25:57,070 --> 00:25:54,740 article completely separate channels 649 00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:57,080 because the pilot at the end of it said 650 00:26:01,960 --> 00:25:59,840 I want to fly one of these yeah I'd love 651 00:26:04,030 --> 00:26:01,970 yes he does right loved to fly one and 652 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:04,040 he thought that made it genuine this is 653 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:06,650 a this is an Intel guy who was deep into 654 00:26:10,990 --> 00:26:08,330 doing it when there when the Russians 655 00:26:13,450 --> 00:26:11,000 were Soviets and the whole nine yards 656 00:26:15,610 --> 00:26:13,460 he's convinced that this is genuine 657 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:15,620 legitimate yeah because it's it's it's 658 00:26:18,970 --> 00:26:17,570 it's a thing a pilot would say you know 659 00:26:21,150 --> 00:26:18,980 what I mean I mean a scientist would say 660 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:21,160 hey look at this thing and you know a 661 00:26:24,669 --> 00:26:23,090 sociologist say oh the world is gonna 662 00:26:29,230 --> 00:26:24,679 change but a pie would say man I'd love 663 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:29,240 to fly that thing yep all right then I 664 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:32,150 you have a pause there it just seems a 665 00:26:39,490 --> 00:26:36,170 little canned at when I take up a shaded 666 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:39,500 more mature view of it okay so in the 30 667 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:41,090 seconds we have let your Intel friend 668 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:43,140 thinks that did that legitimized it 669 00:26:46,370 --> 00:26:44,910 and he thinks evenings is a legitimate 670 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:46,380 story he does believe that there's some 671 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:48,330 layers of stuff going on okay yes and 672 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:50,730 it's absolutely no way that this thing 673 00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:53,130 is over the program and this person are 674 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:54,720 probably done it shifted over to 675 00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:56,850 something else yeah oh yeah sure you saw 676 00:27:01,039 --> 00:26:58,620 it on Friday and it's a new office on 677 00:27:03,549 --> 00:27:01,049 Monday why don't we think yeah that 678 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:03,559 sounds like a country song doesn't it I 679 00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:05,490 think you won you're talking about is 680 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:07,230 everything comes back to you when you 681 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:08,640 play the music backwards I think that's 682 00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:11,130 what you're talking oh okay and not 683 00:27:16,419 --> 00:27:13,920 thank God in Greyhound you're gone if 684 00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:16,429 the phone doesn't ring it's not me 685 00:27:21,409 --> 00:27:18,900 anyway why don't we take a commercial 686 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:21,419 break now you're listening to make more 687 00:27:25,370 --> 00:27:23,130 these military exercise show here on the 688 00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:25,380 distant Thunder radio network we're 689 00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:27,480 talking about this breaking news about 690 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,160 how the US government has finally 691 00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:30,960 admitted that they've been looking at 692 00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:33,240 the UFOs for quite a while while they 693 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:35,580 were telling us that they weren't well 694 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:37,650 we take some martial break now and we'll 695 00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,850 be right back after this show here on 696 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:46,799 the distant Thunder radio network this 697 00:27:50,030 --> 00:27:47,850 is bad 698 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:50,040 we're very interested shoe for you 699 00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:53,130 tonight but sad to say one one is nine 700 00:27:59,270 --> 00:27:55,020 theories I have a secret mission sorry 701 00:28:03,080 --> 00:27:59,280 girls but joining us is the equally 702 00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:03,090 famous commander cope I am very pleased 703 00:28:07,220 --> 00:28:04,740 and honored to be with you back tonight 704 00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:07,230 okay you stumble though those words that 705 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:09,000 I throw you with yeah yeah you did 706 00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:10,770 because I wasn't ready for such nice 707 00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:13,559 lauding introduction obviously this is a 708 00:28:17,419 --> 00:28:15,240 very serious show that we're we're 709 00:28:19,730 --> 00:28:17,429 knocking out tonight and I was reading 710 00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:19,740 some more I just got another piece that 711 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:21,240 I was looking at here so I caught 712 00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,590 something that got my attention so it's 713 00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:24,480 fighting off guard why don't we tell 714 00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:25,830 people what the heck we're talking about 715 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:28,110 what we're talking about is this report 716 00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:29,600 that has been out now for about a week 717 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:32,760 having to do with a twenty two million 718 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:34,770 dollar program called the advanced 719 00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:37,530 aerospace threat identification program 720 00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,520 I love that name 721 00:28:42,890 --> 00:28:40,620 basically what it was as a pentagon 722 00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:42,900 program to look into UFOs I mean this is 723 00:28:47,289 --> 00:28:44,100 something that they've been telling us 724 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:47,299 they haven't been doing since 1967 and 725 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:49,710 surprise surprise our government has 726 00:28:54,530 --> 00:28:52,200 been lying to us about something that 727 00:28:56,419 --> 00:28:54,540 you know a lot of people care about and 728 00:28:58,669 --> 00:28:56,429 I think a lot of people want more 729 00:29:00,680 --> 00:28:58,679 people care about it then the US 730 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:00,690 government or the military thinks so 731 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:02,970 we're talking about that tonight 732 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:06,450 one of the things that I wanted to just 733 00:29:11,779 --> 00:29:09,090 throw at youth over is we talked in the 734 00:29:13,789 --> 00:29:11,789 previous segment about how and now over 735 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,799 the during the break I thought more 736 00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:15,840 about that and you know you're right the 737 00:29:22,369 --> 00:29:20,159 the audio going with this video from the 738 00:29:24,169 --> 00:29:22,379 f-18 fighter showing this thing that 739 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:24,179 looks like a top it looks like a kid's 740 00:29:30,139 --> 00:29:26,850 top but it is kind of gyrating in a way 741 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:30,149 and not flying in any way that it seems 742 00:29:37,399 --> 00:29:33,690 that would be possible dynamically wise 743 00:29:39,529 --> 00:29:37,409 but you know they it's almost like you 744 00:29:41,869 --> 00:29:39,539 know 1/5 says hey look at that dude and 745 00:29:44,659 --> 00:29:41,879 you know and I'd love to fly one of 746 00:29:46,580 --> 00:29:44,669 these things and and as you said you 747 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:46,590 know people in military you like about 748 00:29:49,639 --> 00:29:48,330 half of them I really squared away and 749 00:29:51,259 --> 00:29:49,649 they do everything by the book and the 750 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:51,269 other half a kind of you know a little 751 00:29:56,299 --> 00:29:53,730 bit more um you know funky let say and 752 00:29:59,840 --> 00:29:56,309 then I talk like that but this video is 753 00:30:03,200 --> 00:29:59,850 very kind of public land in some areas 754 00:30:05,330 --> 00:30:03,210 it's kind of a strange can can't be kind 755 00:30:07,489 --> 00:30:05,340 of feeling to it yeah yeah but when you 756 00:30:10,879 --> 00:30:07,499 when you read the other parts the pilots 757 00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:10,889 that are involved they seem completely 758 00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:13,710 genuine I have no doubts about it and 759 00:30:19,129 --> 00:30:17,279 they're easily identified that they were 760 00:30:21,649 --> 00:30:19,139 who they say they are and they didn't 761 00:30:23,629 --> 00:30:21,659 seem to have any kind of you know 762 00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:23,639 negative impact to their careers or 763 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:27,600 anything on this it everything in the 764 00:30:32,629 --> 00:30:30,049 new world media that we live in 765 00:30:36,169 --> 00:30:32,639 ok you can't trust anything everything 766 00:30:39,409 --> 00:30:36,179 is photo shot everything has no one puts 767 00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:39,419 a picture anymore on the Internet of 768 00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:41,159 themselves without doing some kind of 769 00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:44,820 touch-up softening the focus yeah I mean 770 00:30:47,810 --> 00:30:46,169 look what we do for the program how we 771 00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:47,820 we all the stuff that we do to get the 772 00:30:52,460 --> 00:30:49,769 audio of the program to have the right 773 00:30:53,659 --> 00:30:52,470 quality so it doesn't have you know and 774 00:30:55,789 --> 00:30:53,669 the editing that go into that 775 00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:55,799 well no different and I think the 776 00:31:01,310 --> 00:30:58,559 Pentagon is way too much into the whole 777 00:31:03,739 --> 00:31:01,320 Hollywood presentation thing and of 778 00:31:05,989 --> 00:31:03,749 course ultimately Mac the timing of this 779 00:31:07,489 --> 00:31:05,999 what the hell is the trying it's you 780 00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:07,499 know what it goes back to remember about 781 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:09,870 it was probably 782 00:31:14,299 --> 00:31:12,450 that quite a year ago went at well I 783 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:14,309 shouldn't say who said this a friend of 784 00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:17,610 ours who works in you know what he does 785 00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:19,620 you know he works with the agencies and 786 00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:22,980 he was brought to Washington you know 787 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:24,750 food this kind of you know routine 788 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:29,070 working agency working yes exactly you 789 00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:30,870 know and it sounds like a boondoggle and 790 00:31:37,820 --> 00:31:36,000 most of my wits like people and people 791 00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:37,830 from the State Department people from 792 00:31:41,570 --> 00:31:39,540 the White House and people from you know 793 00:31:43,490 --> 00:31:41,580 the scientific community who knows where 794 00:31:45,380 --> 00:31:43,500 and they get all get it together in the 795 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:45,390 in a in a classroom which they or a hall 796 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:47,490 and they they give them a problem and 797 00:31:50,390 --> 00:31:48,720 they come back and they say well the 798 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:50,400 military would handle like this State 799 00:31:53,030 --> 00:31:51,450 Department handle like this blah blah 800 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:53,040 blah and he's been going through these 801 00:31:57,799 --> 00:31:54,690 things for years I know do you probably 802 00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,809 been involved in them and and he says 803 00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:00,240 it's always something like why don't I 804 00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,070 never as good as his I guess that right 805 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,080 off the bat yeah the Russian pipeline 806 00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:06,720 has sprung a leak you know it's you know 807 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:08,790 it's contaminating Siberia what should 808 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,410 we do you know military would say 809 00:32:14,150 --> 00:32:12,480 nothing or I've send spies in in the 810 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:14,160 State Department have to help them off 811 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:15,840 it's just one of these things then they 812 00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:18,780 go have lunch right so he said the last 813 00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:22,020 time he went the problem was a UFO has 814 00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:24,870 been recovered how would you handle it 815 00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:27,870 and he says he was shocked that you know 816 00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:30,150 as we've talked about many times you 817 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:33,870 know the the outsider's view looking 818 00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:35,340 into the military is that if you say 819 00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,140 anything about UFOs you're ridiculed 820 00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:39,120 you'll laugh that which is you know 821 00:32:43,210 --> 00:32:40,559 actually probably you know in the 822 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:43,220 civilian world too he was just very 823 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:45,690 surprised that they would spend and 824 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:46,890 these things go on for four or five 825 00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:50,250 hours per problem something on you know 826 00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:53,070 a UFO crash he had never experienced 827 00:32:56,419 --> 00:32:54,840 before and he said as he put it to me he 828 00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:56,429 says I'm just waiting for the next shoe 829 00:33:01,880 --> 00:32:58,740 to drop maybe this is it maybe this is 830 00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:01,890 how they ease us into this oh this could 831 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:04,260 be a socialization normalization kind of 832 00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:06,330 thing going on I mean the other part 833 00:33:11,390 --> 00:33:07,620 that I linked it up to and I thought 834 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:11,400 about the the project that he had sat in 835 00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:13,410 on and participated on the one I thought 836 00:33:17,299 --> 00:33:15,630 about was just recently all the 837 00:33:19,010 --> 00:33:17,309 documents that came out about the 838 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:19,020 Kennedy assassination the opening of 839 00:33:23,950 --> 00:33:21,390 that and then the very public statement 840 00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:23,960 the CIA was still withholding some 841 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:26,580 right I said to myself why would you do 842 00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:28,890 that if you're releasing it why would 843 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:31,620 you add any more injury to it by saying 844 00:33:38,570 --> 00:33:34,050 that the CIA is holding back some of the 845 00:33:41,030 --> 00:33:38,580 documents I mean well I add to the drama 846 00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:41,040 what exactly I mean if you if you 847 00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,940 thought you weren't going to get 848 00:33:45,620 --> 00:33:43,200 everybody's attention 849 00:33:47,150 --> 00:33:45,630 you you completely have even people 850 00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:47,160 there couple not interested they have 851 00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:48,600 any curse you know they're saying oh 852 00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:51,630 those SOPs that's that that's the 853 00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:53,880 smoking gun literally figuratively and 854 00:33:58,430 --> 00:33:55,440 and yeah in every dimension 855 00:34:00,920 --> 00:33:58,440 yeah yeah right right so this is the 856 00:34:03,050 --> 00:34:00,930 same is this another one of these just 857 00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:03,060 throwing it out there because we're 858 00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:05,340 getting ready for some major reveal some 859 00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:07,710 major reset that's going on are they 860 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:09,120 that smart you know what I mean 861 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:10,320 are they that's not that they would 862 00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:11,730 actually but I think they're in that 863 00:34:16,610 --> 00:34:13,740 much of fear that there's seismic shift 864 00:34:19,700 --> 00:34:16,620 going on there that there is culturally 865 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:19,710 and a lot of things going on that people 866 00:34:25,490 --> 00:34:22,889 that held power or at least think they 867 00:34:29,770 --> 00:34:25,500 had their reins on it our feeling things 868 00:34:34,580 --> 00:34:29,780 slipping so if you stay ahead of it by 869 00:34:37,010 --> 00:34:34,590 causing more overload and I think 870 00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:37,020 everyone is trying to harness this 871 00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:39,120 animal which is the Internet I mean look 872 00:34:44,270 --> 00:34:41,460 at the craziness that just went on with 873 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:44,280 net neutrality business yeah you know 874 00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:51,450 right yeah what I'm getting into is the 875 00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:53,700 talk of how people are going to be dying 876 00:35:06,980 --> 00:34:56,040 in multiple thousands of numbers of 877 00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:06,990 business I don't know I have no idea 878 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:09,540 what but this is the kind of statements 879 00:35:12,890 --> 00:35:11,130 that people make public and I think 880 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:12,900 those kind of things were made all the 881 00:35:17,660 --> 00:35:15,390 time but when you had just printed press 882 00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:17,670 and then you know major media television 883 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:20,220 press that most that stuff didn't make 884 00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:21,810 it past the cutting room floor or wasn't 885 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:23,910 put on our reporters now you have 886 00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:26,880 somebody with a phone who can tape it 887 00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:28,980 and why somebody is trying to file a 888 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:31,110 story they have it on a YouTube and 889 00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:35,040 they're signing a deal in an uber yeah 890 00:35:41,170 --> 00:35:36,960 oh it's like when they 891 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:41,180 when to get bin Laden as a helicopter 892 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:45,330 with their phones think something's 893 00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:51,140 Wow it was out there like in about a 894 00:35:57,790 --> 00:35:54,390 minute it was like they don't look like 895 00:36:01,160 --> 00:35:57,800 Pakistani helicopters yeah something big 896 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:01,170 you know but you know see that's the 897 00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:03,690 thing is and and also when when news 898 00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:05,070 used to reach us through you know the 899 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:09,000 radio TV or newspapers there was a there 900 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:11,220 was a limitation on space you know what 901 00:36:13,970 --> 00:36:12,930 I mean I mean it would be edited so 902 00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:13,980 people would I've worked in the 903 00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:15,750 newspapers and you know people read the 904 00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:16,950 stories and make sure everything and in 905 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:18,540 this panel mostly because they don't 906 00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:20,730 wanna be sued or whatever you know but 907 00:36:25,970 --> 00:36:23,640 now you can and and you can only write 908 00:36:29,540 --> 00:36:25,980 you know story with eight columns let's 909 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:29,550 say but now it's an unlimited not the 910 00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:31,290 amount of space that you can put 911 00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:33,180 whatever information at this information 912 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:35,760 in there you know and many more people 913 00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:37,890 read it and no one edits it so no one 914 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:40,260 knows what's the truth and what is it 915 00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:41,970 back now what's the other part of that 916 00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:42,839 and I think that this 917 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:44,550 I think this feeds directly coming back 918 00:36:49,339 --> 00:36:46,380 to the issue that we have at hand here 919 00:36:52,450 --> 00:36:49,349 with this new media with this new way of 920 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:52,460 doing business as it is the more 921 00:36:56,930 --> 00:36:54,930 exposure you get the more hits that you 922 00:36:59,599 --> 00:36:56,940 get the I think this is why the story 923 00:37:02,030 --> 00:36:59,609 has been broken up and repackage into a 924 00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:02,040 number of different snippets because 925 00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:03,900 each time you look at a different page 926 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:05,369 that's another hit 927 00:37:09,740 --> 00:37:08,190 that's another advertising icon that's 928 00:37:13,339 --> 00:37:09,750 thrown on another page that hopefully 929 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:13,349 he's been programmed right you know this 930 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:15,810 is like right now on the screen that I'm 931 00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:17,910 using to talk to you I've just had an ad 932 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:21,630 flash up adulting is when showed up 933 00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:24,210 there yeah so excuse me yeah adulting is 934 00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:27,420 when so now we don't think about them 935 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:29,460 what does what does that guy well I can 936 00:37:32,570 --> 00:37:30,990 tell you right now it got mine uh from 937 00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:32,580 my attention to take a look a closer 938 00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:34,260 look at it and it's the cell laundry 939 00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:36,180 products okay it's not it's not adult 940 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:39,420 film no no it's got but the way it's 941 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:41,609 written and the way it's set up it's you 942 00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:43,050 know I don't want to say the names the 943 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:44,550 manufacturers are involved on there but 944 00:37:49,859 --> 00:37:46,170 it's grocery shop that's what it's about 945 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:49,869 okay all right yes okay yes right so 946 00:37:56,479 --> 00:37:52,930 now take that back - are you trying to 947 00:38:00,719 --> 00:37:56,489 widely disseminate are you trying to put 948 00:38:03,539 --> 00:38:00,729 into different parts and pieces are you 949 00:38:05,489 --> 00:38:03,549 using it as a way to find out who is 950 00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:05,499 interested are we a part of some grand 951 00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:09,359 little experiment now to find out as 952 00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:11,440 everyone likes to do their surveys 953 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:13,089 because politics wants and I know you 954 00:38:15,959 --> 00:38:14,170 don't want to talk politics I'm not 955 00:38:18,989 --> 00:38:15,969 talking about that perfect political 956 00:38:22,019 --> 00:38:18,999 part of it is go ahead and run the study 957 00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:22,029 and find out if 68 percent of the 958 00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:23,440 population the United States is 959 00:38:30,029 --> 00:38:26,710 interested in UFOs and 53 percent of it 960 00:38:32,729 --> 00:38:30,039 has a positive as a very positive view 961 00:38:34,229 --> 00:38:32,739 of extraterrestrials does that mean that 962 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:34,239 the next election cycle you're gonna 963 00:38:38,759 --> 00:38:36,910 hear people talking about if I can open 964 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:38,769 up the files we're gonna open up the 965 00:38:42,989 --> 00:38:40,569 files yes because they think they can 966 00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:42,999 get folks is this part of what just came 967 00:38:49,859 --> 00:38:46,150 out see - we've talked about this a lot 968 00:38:53,249 --> 00:38:49,869 in the show is that the I think in the 969 00:38:56,009 --> 00:38:53,259 past 15 years six or seven of like the 970 00:38:58,650 --> 00:38:56,019 top movies of the year had something to 971 00:39:00,479 --> 00:38:58,660 do with ETS or like you say Independence 972 00:39:03,150 --> 00:39:00,489 Day or something one of the world's 973 00:39:06,059 --> 00:39:03,160 people love that kind of stuff they'd 974 00:39:08,190 --> 00:39:06,069 really and truly do and I think people 975 00:39:09,959 --> 00:39:08,200 you know just generally like the whole 976 00:39:11,459 --> 00:39:09,969 idea of us going to the moon and stuff 977 00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:11,469 like that because it's cool went away 978 00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:13,630 right right and and it wouldn't surprise 979 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:15,609 me if the US government particularly the 980 00:39:20,249 --> 00:39:17,950 military was like just so far behind the 981 00:39:22,349 --> 00:39:20,259 curve that they're just not realizing 982 00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:22,359 that and I can also see some contract 983 00:39:26,219 --> 00:39:23,710 they're going to these people and say 984 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:26,229 hey listen this is what you do okay you 985 00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:27,910 put out this a little bit of news here a 986 00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:29,950 little bit of news here this this video 987 00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:32,049 and so on and so forth and see what the 988 00:39:36,809 --> 00:39:34,630 reaction is and I could see some PR 989 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:36,819 firms selling that in and and just 990 00:39:42,029 --> 00:39:38,890 saying you know is this a political 991 00:39:43,739 --> 00:39:42,039 point as you said to make you know when 992 00:39:46,709 --> 00:39:43,749 mixed and the presidential election 993 00:39:48,749 --> 00:39:46,719 comes up but on the same vein what 994 00:39:50,249 --> 00:39:48,759 really was interesting too is first of 995 00:39:53,249 --> 00:39:50,259 all someone said well this is just some 996 00:39:57,180 --> 00:39:53,259 big spat the star was okay because it's 997 00:40:00,209 --> 00:39:57,190 coming up ask that question and not help 998 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:00,219 to ask that question and also in as you 999 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:02,710 know I just dislike the media in this 1000 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:04,330 country so much that I had 1001 00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:06,730 you know watched any kind of news or 1002 00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:09,160 anything for more than a year and this 1003 00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:11,910 proves why in my opinion is because when 1004 00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:15,700 ABC wanting news came back from showing 1005 00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:18,070 the oh yeah you made up to me about it 1006 00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:19,900 you're absolutely correct you know and 1007 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:22,360 it shown the video of the of the the 1008 00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:24,010 actual object and then talking to the 1009 00:40:26,010 --> 00:40:25,600 pilot and he's making all these good 1010 00:40:29,210 --> 00:40:26,020 points 1011 00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:29,220 you know the bubble-headed news check 1012 00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:31,270 behind the desk with George 1013 00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,400 Stephanopoulos it was also kind of a 1014 00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:35,680 bubble headed news check when we go out 1015 00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:38,110 to eat we never agree on where to go 1016 00:40:42,810 --> 00:40:41,140 burgers heat that tacos it is the one 1017 00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:42,820 thing we do agree on is we all want 1018 00:40:48,030 --> 00:40:44,980 unlimited high-speed data that's why we 1019 00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:48,040 switch to metro pcs stop by metro pcs 1020 00:40:52,110 --> 00:40:49,720 with the whole family and get four lines 1021 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:52,120 with unlimited LTE data for just $100 1022 00:40:56,010 --> 00:40:54,760 period metro pcs Wireless figured out 1023 00:40:57,090 --> 00:40:56,020 covers not available in some areas 1024 00:40:58,050 --> 00:40:57,100 offers for our poor in a number not 1025 00:40:59,250 --> 00:40:58,060 currently active on t-mobile network 1026 00:41:00,480 --> 00:40:59,260 during congestion the fraction of 1027 00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:00,490 customers used more than 35 gigs per 1028 00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:01,870 month may notice reduced beats video 1029 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:03,520 streams depth 240p no tethering seized 1030 00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:05,010 or for details in terms and conditions 1031 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:07,630 she shares to him oh I think that was 1032 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:10,090 the Millennium Falcon oh come on 1033 00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:13,930 okay this you stupid person nice this 1034 00:41:19,890 --> 00:41:17,020 could be the biggest story in the 1035 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:19,900 history of mankind if these things 1036 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:22,570 turned out to be you know you know let's 1037 00:41:26,310 --> 00:41:24,250 say people from another planet people 1038 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,320 from another place another dimension 1039 00:41:30,090 --> 00:41:28,480 another time whatever you will not 1040 00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:30,100 there's no story that will be bigger 1041 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:30,430 than that 1042 00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:32,770 history wise as that's making contact 1043 00:41:38,010 --> 00:41:34,870 with someone who is not human and that's 1044 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:38,020 all you're gonna say now maybe someone 1045 00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:41,110 you know increased her or whatever and 1046 00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:43,270 to you know give the Star Wars a ploy 1047 00:41:48,450 --> 00:41:45,880 because it was on ABC ABC is owned by 1048 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:48,460 Walt Disney the new Star Wars is on Walt 1049 00:41:53,250 --> 00:41:50,770 Disney films right yeah it's all part of 1050 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:53,260 that so much power with Fox the whole 1051 00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:57,490 thing right yeah you touch upon a very 1052 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:00,640 scary aspect of all this as well all 1053 00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:02,530 your entertainment the fusion of your 1054 00:42:07,530 --> 00:42:05,140 entertainment because that in the media 1055 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:07,540 and so-called news is all one there's no 1056 00:42:13,170 --> 00:42:11,650 line of separation anymore right no yeah 1057 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:13,180 you know when he uses the term 1058 00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:15,190 Millennium Falcon like as it's an 1059 00:42:20,339 --> 00:42:17,950 understood icon but what 1060 00:42:22,349 --> 00:42:20,349 monopoly bees in the Star Wars monopoly 1061 00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:22,359 so I guess you know that wasn't you know 1062 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:24,940 what she was talking about you know 40 1063 00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:29,290 years ago they passed a law because set 1064 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:30,880 him on and just be nothing but cartoons 1065 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:32,650 you know when we were growing up right 1066 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:35,890 and and there was a Flintstone cartoon 1067 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,089 and Flintstones vitamins put ads on that 1068 00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:42,880 basically were just the cartoon but the 1069 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,190 characters are taken Flintstone vitamins 1070 00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:46,960 right right and it went to the Supreme 1071 00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:50,320 Court I think and made them stop because 1072 00:42:54,690 --> 00:42:51,940 they said you're blurring the line 1073 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:54,700 between what you're presenting in what 1074 00:43:00,420 --> 00:42:57,130 you're selling right well now they break 1075 00:43:02,730 --> 00:43:00,430 that law all the time you know not in 1076 00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:02,740 cartoons but so what's changed what's 1077 00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:05,320 changed I guess to the power of 10 the 1078 00:43:08,819 --> 00:43:06,640 amount of money that people are making 1079 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:08,829 first of all there's no more cartoons on 1080 00:43:13,950 --> 00:43:10,810 setting money which is kind of a bummer 1081 00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:13,960 but yeah it's money it's like our teens 1082 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:15,849 on Saturday morning when at any moment 1083 00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:17,170 you can call it up on your child's 1084 00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:20,470 Python exactly and in but the thing is 1085 00:43:24,510 --> 00:43:23,470 is that just that that family tree we 1086 00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:24,520 just went through okay 1087 00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,200 ABC News is owned by Walt Disney okay 1088 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:31,359 there give me Walt Disney is keeping you 1089 00:43:38,250 --> 00:43:33,130 in and then Walt Disney is just but you 1090 00:43:41,010 --> 00:43:38,260 know Fox and when you see all that stuff 1091 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:41,020 is you don't know you down to a very 1092 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:42,910 small group of people that make the 1093 00:43:46,829 --> 00:43:44,530 media make the movies make the 1094 00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:46,839 entertainment but now my question is is 1095 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:49,839 that do you think you know the Pentagon 1096 00:43:54,359 --> 00:43:52,510 is this something the military Minds 1097 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:54,369 would go along with them you know you'd 1098 00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:56,530 have to really kind of first of all 1099 00:43:59,579 --> 00:43:58,210 realize that the person that was in 1100 00:44:02,450 --> 00:43:59,589 charge of this project was not a 1101 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:02,460 military member it was a civilian 1102 00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:04,690 director that was in there that wasn't a 1103 00:44:08,849 --> 00:44:06,550 general or an admiral that was running 1104 00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:08,859 this it wasn't a colonel or a captain or 1105 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:11,500 a commander in like that contractor no 1106 00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:13,510 no no this was some probably some kind 1107 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:15,849 of an appointee undersecretary director 1108 00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:17,200 or something underneath that and that's 1109 00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:21,160 part of most of DoD under the Secretary 1110 00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:22,569 of Defense office are civilians you 1111 00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:24,460 don't have military people serve oh you 1112 00:44:27,950 --> 00:44:25,960 got people that from the military that 1113 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,960 are there get its civilian oversight 1114 00:44:31,530 --> 00:44:30,160 civilian control of our military and 1115 00:44:37,340 --> 00:44:31,540 it's just one of the most or 1116 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:37,350 factors of our military with that said I 1117 00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:41,050 I never heard anybody feel that they 1118 00:44:47,010 --> 00:44:44,440 couldn't talk about their experiences I 1119 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:47,020 do remember a couple guys seeing things 1120 00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:49,810 and they you know they talked about it 1121 00:44:53,550 --> 00:44:51,550 what they saw and they didn't realize 1122 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:53,560 didn't know what they saw and the 1123 00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:55,180 command you know back in the 80s saying 1124 00:44:58,170 --> 00:44:56,800 hey knock that off you sound like a 1125 00:45:02,070 --> 00:44:58,180 crazy guy when you're talking about it 1126 00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,080 there was at one point in the 60s that 1127 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:04,480 people that were involved with UFOs were 1128 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:07,930 actually looked upon as something to 1129 00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:10,090 keep an eye on and maybe accelerate 1130 00:45:14,010 --> 00:45:11,440 their promotions and then it went the 1131 00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:14,020 other direction which happens a lot but 1132 00:45:19,710 --> 00:45:17,920 if you look at the social changes I want 1133 00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:19,720 to make sure i phrase this as carefully 1134 00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:20,560 as I can 1135 00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:23,140 the things that are going on with the 1136 00:45:28,050 --> 00:45:24,880 society and the military being a 1137 00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:28,060 microcosm of that and the the stuff is 1138 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:30,280 going on I don't think that anybody 1139 00:45:33,870 --> 00:45:32,170 would really hesitate right now to talk 1140 00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:33,880 about this if they thought they could go 1141 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:35,830 and quite honestly if anybody went after 1142 00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:38,170 them they have the out to make their own 1143 00:45:43,290 --> 00:45:40,390 movie their own film contact their own 1144 00:45:46,650 --> 00:45:43,300 person books yeah the whole nine yards 1145 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:46,660 and how i was wrong because i saw et or 1146 00:45:52,170 --> 00:45:49,690 what did i see the only thing that the 1147 00:45:55,050 --> 00:45:52,180 wine won't really allow people to get 1148 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:55,060 away with is when you give away that 1149 00:46:00,090 --> 00:45:57,010 classified information when you give 1150 00:46:01,530 --> 00:46:00,100 away to the enemy verifiable part of it 1151 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:01,540 and that's another part we haven't even 1152 00:46:08,130 --> 00:46:05,050 touched upon yet so long before the 1153 00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,140 Russians you know Putin can I you know 1154 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:10,720 he checks our pages all the time how 1155 00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:14,050 long before they come out and say 1156 00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:17,440 something about this right right anyway 1157 00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:19,270 their virtue this do you really believe 1158 00:46:25,530 --> 00:46:22,750 that Russia and Putin are not going to 1159 00:46:27,330 --> 00:46:25,540 have some response to this that they 1160 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:27,340 have a long study I just read the 1161 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:30,970 obituary on my show on Sunday of Mariana 1162 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:32,950 Pappas who was one of the greatest test 1163 00:46:37,860 --> 00:46:35,890 pilots ever okay third why supersonic 1164 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:37,870 and later in her career she was involved 1165 00:46:41,950 --> 00:46:39,370 with a UFO and she was very big in the 1166 00:46:44,350 --> 00:46:41,960 UFO investigation right celebrated 1167 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:44,360 very interest she's like a female Chuck 1168 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:46,250 Yeager to the Russian ice all right more 1169 00:46:51,820 --> 00:46:48,170 are the their version of Jackie Cochran 1170 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:51,830 the female test pilot that did 1171 00:46:55,210 --> 00:46:53,090 tremendous things in the States and 1172 00:47:00,400 --> 00:46:55,220 really was never properly recognized for 1173 00:47:02,830 --> 00:47:00,410 hope cards okay so what I'm thinking too 1174 00:47:06,310 --> 00:47:02,840 is I'm just going back in history with 1175 00:47:08,740 --> 00:47:06,320 the Russians I mean in the 1970s and the 1176 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:08,750 aged the Russians actually a lot of 1177 00:47:11,650 --> 00:47:10,250 other countries are much more open about 1178 00:47:13,210 --> 00:47:11,660 this and the United States is the other 1179 00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:13,220 one that really is kind of closed off 1180 00:47:18,850 --> 00:47:16,310 because them and the I'm gonna say late 1181 00:47:23,170 --> 00:47:18,860 70s early 80s the Russian military 1182 00:47:26,860 --> 00:47:23,180 actually sent like a a message to every 1183 00:47:27,850 --> 00:47:26,870 every person in the Russian military at 1184 00:47:29,260 --> 00:47:27,860 the time I think it was like three 1185 00:47:31,870 --> 00:47:29,270 million people I'm talking about ground 1186 00:47:34,860 --> 00:47:31,880 soldiers people you know on ships and 1187 00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:34,870 pilots and so on and they basically said 1188 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:39,110 fill this out if you see a UFO okay 1189 00:47:43,330 --> 00:47:41,210 because they wanted to see you know 1190 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:43,340 Hamid you know basically how many people 1191 00:47:46,330 --> 00:47:44,720 in the military is seeing these things 1192 00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:46,340 and they would also know you know has a 1193 00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:48,830 top-secret stuff you know showing up so 1194 00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:51,820 like they kept like tens of thousands of 1195 00:47:56,890 --> 00:47:55,520 responses and and and they really kind 1196 00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,900 of looked into it you know this is 1197 00:48:00,340 --> 00:47:58,880 something that you know was was not 1198 00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:00,350 highly publicized here in the United 1199 00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:01,730 States because at the time you know is 1200 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:03,680 the old Carlos block and so on but they 1201 00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:05,090 actually did look into this and they 1202 00:48:10,090 --> 00:48:07,310 what they found was that you know these 1203 00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:10,100 things show what show up you know a lot 1204 00:48:16,090 --> 00:48:14,000 people see them a lot and people don't 1205 00:48:19,570 --> 00:48:16,100 knit and don't naturally report them 1206 00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:19,580 either okay but they kind of prove the 1207 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:21,680 fact that you know these things have 1208 00:48:24,940 --> 00:48:23,090 been with us they've been with us for a 1209 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:24,950 long time they're still with us now and 1210 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:27,170 another thing too is that is what all 1211 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:28,850 this proves now what we're talking about 1212 00:48:35,140 --> 00:48:32,810 I think is that you hear many times on 1213 00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:35,150 shows not this show but shows like this 1214 00:48:39,310 --> 00:48:37,310 where oh the military of course knows 1215 00:48:41,650 --> 00:48:39,320 you know what this stuff is the military 1216 00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:41,660 of course has UFO pods and so on and so 1217 00:48:44,380 --> 00:48:42,110 forth 1218 00:48:46,780 --> 00:48:44,390 this proves that's all wrong because if 1219 00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:46,790 they knew what UFOs were this was never 1220 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:49,190 this would never have come out just that 1221 00:48:53,410 --> 00:48:51,110 that video would not have come out those 1222 00:48:55,010 --> 00:48:53,420 f-18 pilots wouldn't be able to talk and 1223 00:48:58,820 --> 00:48:55,020 that story probably 1224 00:49:01,280 --> 00:48:58,830 come out so as I've said all along the 1225 00:49:04,940 --> 00:49:01,290 US military knows that UFOs exist but 1226 00:49:10,310 --> 00:49:04,950 they don't know what they are and they 1227 00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:10,320 use this as a means to exploit the enemy 1228 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:12,860 and gather information and intelligence 1229 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,290 there quickly to explain how that's done 1230 00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:19,200 well we know that when they were test 1231 00:49:24,110 --> 00:49:20,700 timing and flying and doing their 1232 00:49:27,020 --> 00:49:24,120 operations during the 60s and 70s they 1233 00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:27,030 fed into UFO supportive organizations 1234 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:31,200 false information to keep them active to 1235 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:33,690 cover up what it was that was part of 1236 00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:36,330 Project Blue Book or what whatever tier 1237 00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:38,310 you want to go do that right they would 1238 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:41,070 eat information in so when the Russians 1239 00:49:45,350 --> 00:49:42,930 are making these kinds of remarks or 1240 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:45,360 this is going on in Europe you use that 1241 00:49:53,060 --> 00:49:48,810 as a cover as another layer to throw off 1242 00:49:54,740 --> 00:49:53,070 what's going on so do you expect then 1243 00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:54,750 are you saying like within the next two 1244 00:49:59,600 --> 00:49:57,060 weeks we'll come and see footage from 1245 00:50:03,320 --> 00:49:59,610 Russian fighters chasing UFOs that time 1246 00:50:06,860 --> 00:50:03,330 I can't believe that Putin will not at 1247 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:06,870 least let the Russians grab some kind of 1248 00:50:13,130 --> 00:50:08,970 piece of what this is going on because 1249 00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:13,140 this is a this I think was put up as a 1250 00:50:20,510 --> 00:50:18,390 test to some degree and it is blossoming 1251 00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:20,520 you know with a factor maybe to the 1252 00:50:23,780 --> 00:50:22,380 fourth or fifth power it keeps spread no 1253 00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,790 and then they keep adding different 1254 00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:25,200 stories so there's more stuff in the 1255 00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:27,000 search engine okay but I have to ask 1256 00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:30,180 this is is are you giving me the US 1257 00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:32,070 military or the US government too much 1258 00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:34,440 credit because you know 99% of what they 1259 00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:37,740 do get screwed up you know so what I was 1260 00:50:42,830 --> 00:50:40,200 selling would they be able to just you 1261 00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:42,840 know put up this master plan that is 1262 00:50:46,340 --> 00:50:44,760 working perfectly from the south I don't 1263 00:50:48,610 --> 00:50:46,350 say that it's working perfectly at all 1264 00:50:52,070 --> 00:50:48,620 max but I do think that in 15 years 1265 00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:52,080 you're starting to see active campaigns 1266 00:50:56,930 --> 00:50:53,940 that are fought on the battlefield of 1267 00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:56,940 the of the internet and media and 1268 00:51:01,430 --> 00:51:00,000 people's attention and why this is going 1269 00:51:05,660 --> 00:51:01,440 on and why this being said something 1270 00:51:07,580 --> 00:51:05,670 else is going on I just won't go find 1271 00:51:08,660 --> 00:51:07,590 that this is part of it but what could 1272 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:08,670 be bigger than 1273 00:51:13,099 --> 00:51:10,770 you know making as I said before making 1274 00:51:16,220 --> 00:51:13,109 contact with someone and then tells the 1275 00:51:18,049 --> 00:51:16,230 species that is not us I mean what could 1276 00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:18,059 be what's what could be bigger than that 1277 00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:19,920 why would they have laughing and if it's 1278 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:21,839 that big and I believe you're correct 1279 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:23,130 and I don't think that that's not a 1280 00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:25,650 strong possibility if you look at what's 1281 00:51:29,059 --> 00:51:26,880 come out of the Holy See 1282 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:29,069 the Pope himself the kind of remarks 1283 00:51:32,329 --> 00:51:30,690 that have been made as of light that 1284 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:32,339 they could be extraterrestrial like 1285 00:51:35,809 --> 00:51:34,890 which is a huge shift for the break he 1286 00:51:38,089 --> 00:51:35,819 said that recently 1287 00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,099 yeah within the latest Pope within the 1288 00:51:42,980 --> 00:51:41,280 last year you know and talking about the 1289 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:42,990 possibility of life I'll look it up on 1290 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:45,450 our break to talk about these are all 1291 00:51:49,490 --> 00:51:47,730 things in there but in the middle of 1292 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:49,500 that are all the other people who are 1293 00:51:53,329 --> 00:51:51,690 vying for control they don't care if 1294 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:53,339 they're aliens or not they'll make a 1295 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,410 deal with them when they show up right 1296 00:52:02,240 --> 00:51:57,359 now they're wrestling and they want to 1297 00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:02,250 maintain control Wow okay Cobra alright 1298 00:52:09,140 --> 00:52:06,089 well hey listen like I say my hat back I 1299 00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:09,150 know I didn't I can't see on camera 1300 00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:09,599 tonight 1301 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:12,240 but anyway actually I miss all the Tom 1302 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:14,130 Brady attire that you know one one 1303 00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:15,930 usually has on you know yeah and you and 1304 00:52:20,349 --> 00:52:17,849 Bob not around to flick the lights on 1305 00:52:22,370 --> 00:52:20,359 Bob's not around Bob the ghost yeah but 1306 00:52:25,099 --> 00:52:22,380 anyway well I'll tell you what why don't 1307 00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:25,109 we do this one thing I want to type but 1308 00:52:29,210 --> 00:52:26,670 when we come back is it something that 1309 00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:29,220 you you'll hit on and the first segment 1310 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:30,900 is you know where is everyone else you 1311 00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:32,730 know they let these two f-18 pilots come 1312 00:52:39,470 --> 00:52:36,510 out you know where I'm coming out I mean 1313 00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:39,480 that is no there's nothing there to help 1314 00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:41,400 you understand that right yeah exactly 1315 00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:45,359 you know it's like why when now and also 1316 00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:48,960 there's that too is the you know I 1317 00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:51,960 watched on well I mean I I read let's 1318 00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:54,119 say you thought well I post is a it's 1319 00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:56,730 owned by Fox it's very conservative it's 1320 00:53:00,650 --> 00:52:58,290 very far-right but I read it for the 1321 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:00,660 sports section and which is a great 1322 00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:03,450 sports section but you know I happen to 1323 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:05,609 see the headline for it and it's that 1324 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:08,160 ridicule factor again what though all 1325 00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:10,170 their stories that had that have 1326 00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:11,849 appeared about this one we're talking 1327 00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:14,940 about this UFO Seema project 1328 00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:17,339 they all hid it from hey look at how 1329 00:53:20,420 --> 00:53:18,750 they've been wasting our money for 1330 00:53:22,220 --> 00:53:20,430 twenty two million dollars I mean it's 1331 00:53:24,260 --> 00:53:22,230 it's constant there in walks 1332 00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:24,270 with that kind of story I find that 1333 00:53:28,010 --> 00:53:26,609 interesting - it don't count on what 1334 00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:28,020 we're talking about is they so people 1335 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:29,520 are going oh yeah what are they spending 1336 00:53:33,050 --> 00:53:31,650 that money for on that nonsense but I 1337 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:33,060 think the majority of people are going 1338 00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:36,570 yeah yes yes well my I we get our back 1339 00:53:40,130 --> 00:53:38,700 on the break I've got a piece of art 1340 00:53:41,890 --> 00:53:40,140 that I want to address on that because I 1341 00:53:43,940 --> 00:53:41,900 think that there's an interesting 1342 00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:43,950 explanation to that or at least some 1343 00:53:47,540 --> 00:53:46,140 enlightenment to it and we're hoping 1344 00:53:48,140 --> 00:53:47,550 that when we come back that the 1345 00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:48,150 Switchblade 1346 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:50,910 will be joining us in later on Emily M 1347 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:52,170 we're gonna be talking about this guy 1348 00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:53,850 Bigelow who actually got the 22 million 1349 00:54:00,859 --> 00:53:56,960 dollars to run this program and also 1350 00:54:02,750 --> 00:54:00,869 this is not the first US government US 1351 00:54:04,670 --> 00:54:02,760 military program to look into UFOs 1352 00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,680 there's been several others Emily M is 1353 00:54:09,380 --> 00:54:06,240 going to be talking to us about that so 1354 00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:09,390 when we take a break now and we'll be 1355 00:54:12,770 --> 00:54:10,800 right back after listening listening to 1356 00:54:15,380 --> 00:54:12,780 Mack mommies military-style show here a 1357 00:54:17,450 --> 00:54:15,390 special show talking about the newly 1358 00:54:19,370 --> 00:54:17,460 released newly revealed secret UFO 1359 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:19,380 project run by the Pentagon we'll be 1360 00:54:27,050 --> 00:54:25,410 right back after this tracks now show 1361 00:54:29,810 --> 00:54:27,060 here on the distant Thunder radio 1362 00:54:31,570 --> 00:54:29,820 network this is a look we're talking 1363 00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:31,580 tonight about this newly revealed 1364 00:54:38,810 --> 00:54:34,800 Pentagon program that was looking into 1365 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:38,820 UFOs and tracking alien life something 1366 00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:41,760 that the US military US government has 1367 00:54:45,830 --> 00:54:43,500 told us for years that they don't do and 1368 00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:45,840 it turns out they were lying to us that 1369 00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:47,990 they were doing it at least up until 1370 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:50,609 2012 when they say the program ended its 1371 00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:52,290 controversial whether the program ended 1372 00:54:58,940 --> 00:54:56,310 or not but an interesting talk back is 1373 00:55:00,440 --> 00:54:58,950 this the big breakthrough we've all been 1374 00:55:02,450 --> 00:55:00,450 waiting for or is it just you know some 1375 00:55:03,650 --> 00:55:02,460 kind of weird media campaign who knows 1376 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:03,660 but that's what we're talking about 1377 00:55:09,050 --> 00:55:07,170 tonight no one won tonight girl sorry 1378 00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:09,060 he's out on his own little secret 1379 00:55:13,070 --> 00:55:10,230 mission 1380 00:55:16,820 --> 00:55:13,080 he says raising funds to revitalize this 1381 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:16,830 program who knows but with us is the 1382 00:55:21,620 --> 00:55:19,410 equally famous commander Cobra good 1383 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:21,630 evening sir from his undisclosed 1384 00:55:28,310 --> 00:55:26,250 location and we're also joined by 1385 00:55:30,620 --> 00:55:28,320 switchblade Steve Warren up there and 1386 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:30,630 battle creek home of the flakes hey 1387 00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:32,010 there are you doing there tonight 1388 00:55:35,820 --> 00:55:32,550 switchy 1389 00:55:38,130 --> 00:55:35,830 well I'm doing really good because I am 1390 00:55:44,130 --> 00:55:38,140 I am slouching closer and closer to 1391 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:44,140 retirement oh wow okay are you laying on 1392 00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:48,970 your back I'm gonna try and retire 1393 00:55:54,660 --> 00:55:51,820 before I have to lay on my back okay all 1394 00:55:56,310 --> 00:55:54,670 right yeah good to know all right we all 1395 00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:56,320 prefer it for the audience to think 1396 00:56:01,080 --> 00:55:58,930 we're in our early 30 Steve but you know 1397 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:01,090 if you want to be the retiree I could be 1398 00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:03,520 an entrepreneur that has done so well in 1399 00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:06,310 business that I'm not 45 right and a 1400 00:56:12,030 --> 00:56:07,840 wing like you could fly by on the show 1401 00:56:13,950 --> 00:56:12,040 at anytime by the window really yeah 1402 00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:13,960 okay very interesting up there in the 1403 00:56:18,570 --> 00:56:16,390 bullet flex so um what we've been 1404 00:56:21,300 --> 00:56:18,580 talking about is this you know this 1405 00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:21,310 program that the military was running 1406 00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:25,540 for a while looking into UFOs UFO 1407 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:27,280 sightings and so on and so forth and 1408 00:56:31,470 --> 00:56:29,290 they supposedly closed it down as a 1409 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:31,480 convert it was controversial that they 1410 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:34,930 did but they did say in a statement 1411 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:36,610 which I also thought was interesting was 1412 00:56:43,980 --> 00:56:40,690 that the Pentagon would continue to take 1413 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:43,990 reports from military people principally 1414 00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:47,530 US Air Force pilots on if they see 1415 00:56:51,330 --> 00:56:49,510 things that might be described as UFOs 1416 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:51,340 which was interesting because you know 1417 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:54,490 we've been taught or we've been told you 1418 00:56:58,890 --> 00:56:56,050 know over the years is that you know 1419 00:57:00,840 --> 00:56:58,900 military pilots don't report seeing UFOs 1420 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:00,850 and neither do we align pilots because 1421 00:57:04,980 --> 00:57:03,010 if they do and in case the airline 1422 00:57:06,810 --> 00:57:04,990 pilots it might you know effect you know 1423 00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:06,820 their promotions or whatever and 1424 00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:08,590 military same thing you know you don't 1425 00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:11,350 want to be known as the tin hat guy you 1426 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:12,940 know because it stands in your way when 1427 00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:15,850 you want to get promoted but now there 1428 00:57:19,290 --> 00:57:17,350 the Pentagon you know apparently is 1429 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:19,300 saying no we will talk to him I think 1430 00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:21,250 that probably what was happening and you 1431 00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:23,710 can you know straight me out on this if 1432 00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:25,660 I'm wrong Cobra is I think that you know 1433 00:57:28,830 --> 00:57:27,310 they probably reported these things all 1434 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:28,840 along but they just you know how [\h__\h] up 1435 00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:30,610 classified it and so on and so forth 1436 00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:31,630 what do you think if a fighter pilot 1437 00:57:35,220 --> 00:57:33,190 typical fighter pilot within the last 1438 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:35,230 thirty years so I have something really 1439 00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:37,810 strange wouldn't he have to report it it 1440 00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:39,310 just they just wouldn't let that 1441 00:57:46,350 --> 00:57:42,540 information out I think you're right 1442 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:46,360 partially I think it could be not to 1443 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:48,570 allow something classified to be seen 1444 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:51,330 could be that you have a situation where 1445 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:54,450 they are wanting to control the 1446 00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:55,890 information and now this could be a 1447 00:58:00,260 --> 00:57:58,890 major sea shift in the the way the winds 1448 00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,270 blowing that they're allowing this 1449 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:01,680 all-out or it's all part of some 1450 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:04,050 orchestrated other programs do you know 1451 00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:06,450 getting ready for the big news well you 1452 00:58:11,630 --> 00:58:08,910 know if this is their way of easing us 1453 00:58:15,110 --> 00:58:11,640 into it as you say you know this is this 1454 00:58:17,230 --> 00:58:15,120 story has had a lot of legs it's been it 1455 00:58:20,660 --> 00:58:17,240 didn't go away it's been all over CNN 1456 00:58:23,330 --> 00:58:20,670 both negative and you know and and well 1457 00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:23,340 reported and you know somewhere like way 1458 00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:25,260 way way out there with the woman who 1459 00:58:30,020 --> 00:58:27,300 said on ABC News I thought I just 1460 00:58:31,850 --> 00:58:30,030 thought it was the you know the the 1461 00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:31,860 Millennium Falcon you know given a Star 1462 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:35,790 Wars plug to a movie that our parent 1463 00:58:40,460 --> 00:58:38,610 company just put out as if they need any 1464 00:58:42,380 --> 00:58:40,470 more advertising you know I just want to 1465 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:42,390 say it's that for the people who haven't 1466 00:58:46,730 --> 00:58:44,130 seen the video it's all over YouTube but 1467 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:46,740 to me this thing looks like it's not 1468 00:58:51,020 --> 00:58:48,810 crystal clear there's something out 1469 00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:51,030 there it looks like a kid's top it looks 1470 00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:53,280 like a black kids top even though they 1471 00:58:57,890 --> 00:58:55,230 described this thing as a 48-foot your 1472 00:59:00,860 --> 00:58:57,900 own a 40-foot long tic-tac I don't see 1473 00:59:03,650 --> 00:59:00,870 the tic-tac angle looks like a kid's top 1474 00:59:05,390 --> 00:59:03,660 and it's and it's kind of rotating back 1475 00:59:07,610 --> 00:59:05,400 and forth or going back and forth on its 1476 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:07,620 axis and at one point one of the PI's 1477 00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:09,930 says you know that's that's flying in in 1478 00:59:15,020 --> 00:59:12,180 the way that's you know aerodynamically 1479 00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:15,030 possible that we know of it it's in the 1480 00:59:19,820 --> 00:59:17,760 air but you know flying you know may not 1481 00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:19,830 be the right description it came out of 1482 00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,900 the ocean or it came very close to the 1483 00:59:27,020 --> 00:59:23,760 ocean which really leads us into this 1484 00:59:28,430 --> 00:59:27,030 whole unidentified submerged object 1485 00:59:31,070 --> 00:59:28,440 thing which is something that you know 1486 00:59:33,020 --> 00:59:31,080 people have been seeing for years it's 1487 00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:33,030 it's just that the video is very strange 1488 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:35,790 on the story that came out you know why 1489 00:59:39,650 --> 00:59:38,010 now and why in the New York Times now 1490 00:59:40,670 --> 00:59:39,660 and where these pilots come from and all 1491 00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:40,680 of a sudden you know they're being 1492 00:59:44,090 --> 00:59:42,510 interviewed where's the other pilots 1493 00:59:45,620 --> 00:59:44,100 where are the other pilots you know why 1494 00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:45,630 haven't they come forward this isn't the 1495 00:59:52,730 --> 00:59:50,100 only video that we have of the UFOs I 1496 00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:52,740 mean we'll go back to Gordon Cooper back 1497 00:59:58,100 --> 00:59:55,140 in the early and the early 50s or the 1498 00:59:59,980 --> 00:59:58,110 mid 50s you know he was working out a 1499 01:00:02,210 --> 00:59:59,990 basin that secret airbase out in 1500 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:02,220 California Edwards Air Force Base where 1501 01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:02,730 they 1502 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:05,640 test a lot of secret stuff and he was 1503 01:00:09,500 --> 01:00:07,410 assigned out there and two guys that he 1504 01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,510 was working with who were a film crew 1505 01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:11,280 they were filming airplanes landing on a 1506 01:00:17,690 --> 01:00:15,260 new kind of arrested system you know 1507 01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:17,700 filled the UFO wailing right in front of 1508 01:00:21,950 --> 01:00:20,310 them people looking out at them and then 1509 01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:21,960 taking off they brought the film back to 1510 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:24,089 Gwen Cooper who sent it right on into 1511 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:25,530 the Pentagon I know what is in the 1512 01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:27,570 Pentagon made they said use the generals 1513 01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:29,910 airplane and get it to us he never heard 1514 01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:31,140 another word about it 1515 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:32,880 three years later he's part of the 1516 01:00:37,130 --> 01:00:35,130 mercury seven you know he's part of the 1517 01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:37,140 first group of US astronauts and those 1518 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:40,230 guys were heroes so we know that there's 1519 01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:42,810 at least film video of UFOs going back 1520 01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:44,609 to the 50s and I got a I got a feeling 1521 01:00:50,750 --> 01:00:47,040 there's miles of footage so now as you 1522 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:50,760 say Corbett now why why now why well 1523 01:00:54,170 --> 01:00:52,170 we're in it we're definitely in a sea of 1524 01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:54,180 change and the other part I'm curious 1525 01:00:56,990 --> 01:00:55,680 about is where's the other pilots for 1526 01:00:59,180 --> 01:00:57,000 this story what's coming next 1527 01:01:05,450 --> 01:00:59,190 speaking about what's coming next I 1528 01:01:07,970 --> 01:01:05,460 believe yes that miss Emily m-maybe when 1529 01:01:10,730 --> 01:01:07,980 we go out to eat we never agree on where 1530 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:10,740 to go what burgers heats up tacos it is 1531 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:12,690 the one thing we do agree on is we all 1532 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:14,730 want unlimited high-speed data that's 1533 01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:17,910 why we switch to metro pcs stop by metro 1534 01:01:21,620 --> 01:01:19,680 pcs with the whole family and get four 1535 01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:21,630 lines with unlimited LTE data for just 1536 01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:24,750 $100 period metro pcs Wireless figured 1537 01:01:27,530 --> 01:01:26,190 out covers not available in some areas 1538 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:27,540 offers for our port number not currently 1539 01:01:29,809 --> 01:01:28,650 active on t-mobile network during 1540 01:01:31,220 --> 01:01:29,819 congestion the fraction of customers use 1541 01:01:33,079 --> 01:01:31,230 more than 35 kicks per month may notice 1542 01:01:34,339 --> 01:01:33,089 reduce beats video stream step 240p no 1543 01:01:37,370 --> 01:01:34,349 tethering see store for details in terms 1544 01:01:44,770 --> 01:01:37,380 and conditions II beamed into our into 1545 01:01:47,660 --> 01:01:44,780 our here we can hope Emily hello 1546 01:01:51,319 --> 01:01:47,670 suddenly that show is taking a welcome 1547 01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:51,329 turn yes classed it right up oh I see it 1548 01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:52,710 didn't take a welcome turn when I showed 1549 01:02:00,770 --> 01:01:58,890 up okay just clarification when you told 1550 01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:00,780 that dragging yourself to retirement 1551 01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,400 story I don't know yeah energy just run 1552 01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,640 right out of the room but it's back 1553 01:02:08,809 --> 01:02:06,960 Emily thanks for joining us you know 1554 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:08,819 we're talking about this secret Pentagon 1555 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:11,810 program looking into UFOs 1556 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:14,730 Steve now this guy big about we've 1557 01:02:17,530 --> 01:02:15,290 talked about 1558 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:17,540 him on the air before and how he was at 1559 01:02:21,820 --> 01:02:18,890 least the former owner of this place 1560 01:02:23,710 --> 01:02:21,830 called skinwalker ranch can you tell us 1561 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:23,720 a little bit about him first of all you 1562 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:25,610 know who is he how much money does he 1563 01:02:31,630 --> 01:02:28,850 have does anyone know well you know you 1564 01:02:33,460 --> 01:02:31,640 comb the internet and you don't know if 1565 01:02:36,190 --> 01:02:33,470 you're getting fax or not but I've heard 1566 01:02:39,220 --> 01:02:36,200 estimates of 1 billion Bundy but he did 1567 01:02:41,340 --> 01:02:39,230 he was in real estate developing hotels 1568 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:41,350 and so forth for decades and I 1569 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:43,370 understanding is he always had an eye 1570 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:45,410 toward he was fascinated with the 1571 01:02:50,740 --> 01:02:47,810 unexplained with UFOs and he always 1572 01:02:54,580 --> 01:02:50,750 wanted to head in that direction and 1573 01:02:58,300 --> 01:02:54,590 also he's been involved with you know 1574 01:03:01,590 --> 01:02:58,310 putting his own private vehicles up into 1575 01:03:04,270 --> 01:03:01,600 orbit space stations and so forth ok so 1576 01:03:07,150 --> 01:03:04,280 go ahead no we should say that so this 1577 01:03:09,460 --> 01:03:07,160 guy Bigelow is the person who Harry Reid 1578 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:09,470 the senator from Nevada was able to 1579 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:11,810 funnel the 22 million dollars to a big 1580 01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:13,010 low and he's the guy who kind of 1581 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:16,000 wrangled this whole you know secret UFO 1582 01:03:22,570 --> 01:03:18,890 program but my question is is number one 1583 01:03:24,190 --> 01:03:22,580 he was putting up hotels and casinos and 1584 01:03:26,140 --> 01:03:24,200 he's only worth a billion dollars that's 1585 01:03:27,250 --> 01:03:26,150 chump change and that you know era you 1586 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:27,260 know why isn't he worth a hundred 1587 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:29,810 billion dollars and number two and I 1588 01:03:33,220 --> 01:03:31,130 don't expect you to know that answer but 1589 01:03:35,020 --> 01:03:33,230 you know I mean could he really put 1590 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:35,030 space stations up in orbit 1591 01:03:38,380 --> 01:03:37,010 I mean without us knowing about or would 1592 01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:38,390 the government let him put his own 1593 01:03:43,390 --> 01:03:40,400 private well he's already put up a 1594 01:03:45,940 --> 01:03:43,400 couple now he had to get the at that 1595 01:03:48,310 --> 01:03:45,950 time again my understanding was and a 1596 01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:48,320 lot of this is pretty pretty hazy NASA 1597 01:03:51,940 --> 01:03:49,910 wasn't cooperating so he went to the 1598 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:51,950 Russians and he put these modules up and 1599 01:03:57,250 --> 01:03:54,530 they were part of the reason was to try 1600 01:03:59,740 --> 01:03:57,260 and monitor UFOs and so forth into space 1601 01:04:01,600 --> 01:03:59,750 and for a while he even had some kind of 1602 01:04:03,790 --> 01:04:01,610 it's not going on anymore he had some 1603 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:03,800 kind of an agreement working agreement 1604 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:06,770 with MUFON the mutual UFO network okay 1605 01:04:10,210 --> 01:04:07,850 so I don't know I don't know where that 1606 01:04:13,630 --> 01:04:10,220 stands now but he said he wants to put 1607 01:04:15,370 --> 01:04:13,640 hotels private hotels up into space and 1608 01:04:17,590 --> 01:04:15,380 now NASA he's working with NASA they 1609 01:04:19,530 --> 01:04:17,600 seem to love him and you know it's it's 1610 01:04:21,700 --> 01:04:19,540 the same old story you know sometimes 1611 01:04:23,470 --> 01:04:21,710 government does find to a certain point 1612 01:04:26,050 --> 01:04:23,480 but you get the private sector in there 1613 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:26,060 and they go crazy but it's interesting 1614 01:04:31,489 --> 01:04:28,410 you mentioned that 22 million 1615 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:31,499 you know George Knapp who George Knapp 1616 01:04:36,979 --> 01:04:33,690 came in isn't he knows Bigelow 1617 01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:36,989 personally in George who is an 1618 01:04:42,259 --> 01:04:38,400 investigative reporter out of Las Vegas 1619 01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:42,269 he does the Sunday show sometimes on 1620 01:04:46,910 --> 01:04:44,880 coast to coast am right he co-wrote the 1621 01:04:49,279 --> 01:04:46,920 book with column Kelleher the hunt for 1622 01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:49,289 the skinwalker and that is about the 1623 01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:51,710 ranch in Utah of course that Bigelow 1624 01:04:57,049 --> 01:04:54,089 purchased that had all kinds of weird 1625 01:04:59,059 --> 01:04:57,059 stuff going on and purchased and set up 1626 01:05:01,700 --> 01:04:59,069 the National Institute for discovery 1627 01:05:03,859 --> 01:05:01,710 science which I think disbanded about 1628 01:05:05,809 --> 01:05:03,869 2004 started about he people ought to 1629 01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,819 ranch back in 95 then was the ranch 1630 01:05:09,859 --> 01:05:07,440 already kind of hunted when he bought 1631 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:09,869 was going nuts it was there the people 1632 01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:13,170 on the schurmans were going crazy and 1633 01:05:19,210 --> 01:05:15,599 one of the first paranormal investigator 1634 01:05:22,609 --> 01:05:19,220 they enlisted aid of was Chris O'Brien 1635 01:05:25,130 --> 01:05:22,619 has been on the show before and he 1636 01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:25,140 himself has investigated the San Luis 1637 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:27,569 Valley which is what the southern 1638 01:05:33,979 --> 01:05:30,690 Colorado and northern New Mexico is that 1639 01:05:35,660 --> 01:05:33,989 correct the UFOs out there like every 1640 01:05:37,370 --> 01:05:35,670 day they see them so routinely they 1641 01:05:38,569 --> 01:05:37,380 don't even bother to report them any and 1642 01:05:39,890 --> 01:05:38,579 I guess there still has been a lot of 1643 01:05:43,150 --> 01:05:39,900 that's the biggest headache on the 1644 01:05:46,999 --> 01:05:43,160 skinwalker ranch or the Bigelow ranch is 1645 01:05:48,890 --> 01:05:47,009 people trying to trespass and right for 1646 01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,900 a thrill or whatever what some of the 1647 01:05:52,519 --> 01:05:50,400 things they see out there I mean did 1648 01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:52,529 they see more than UFOs oh my god 1649 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:55,200 they've had bizarre they've had animal 1650 01:05:59,089 --> 01:05:57,210 mutilations they've seen these giant 1651 01:06:01,160 --> 01:05:59,099 black triangles and some of them coming 1652 01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:01,170 out of what seems like a hole in the sky 1653 01:06:07,910 --> 01:06:04,799 we've had all kinds of orbs blue orbs 1654 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:07,920 orange orbs that seem actually the way 1655 01:06:12,190 --> 01:06:09,410 they move around sometimes almost 1656 01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:12,200 implies that they might be intelligent 1657 01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:15,569 they they've seen creatures just bizarre 1658 01:06:21,140 --> 01:06:18,799 creatures they don't fit any any any 1659 01:06:23,180 --> 01:06:21,150 rationale that you won't find them in 1660 01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:23,190 the National Geographic magazine let's 1661 01:06:29,180 --> 01:06:26,910 put it that way okay so it's it was it 1662 01:06:30,499 --> 01:06:29,190 was like a laboratory it was it was 1663 01:06:32,660 --> 01:06:30,509 would have been fascinating to be there 1664 01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,670 but the problem is that the the 1665 01:06:37,549 --> 01:06:35,039 scientists when they got there and some 1666 01:06:40,110 --> 01:06:37,559 of them they weren't there all the time 1667 01:06:42,750 --> 01:06:40,120 24/7 sometimes they were 1668 01:06:45,060 --> 01:06:42,760 they documented I don't remember the 1669 01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:45,070 exact number I think it was over 200 1670 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:47,980 separate paranormal incidents and none 1671 01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:51,250 of them were repeated so how how in the 1672 01:06:56,220 --> 01:06:53,110 hell do you apply the scientific method 1673 01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:56,230 to that right but I wanna mention one 1674 01:07:01,140 --> 01:06:57,970 year the while they were there how long 1675 01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:01,150 were they there was that 95 to 2004 1676 01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:03,520 right okay and you say it still goes on 1677 01:07:06,030 --> 01:07:04,990 these days right yes that's why I 1678 01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:06,040 understand there are other people there 1679 01:07:08,730 --> 01:07:07,660 there have been this Ryan Skinner was a 1680 01:07:10,740 --> 01:07:08,740 guy who's written some books 1681 01:07:14,010 --> 01:07:10,750 he actually trespassed a couple times 1682 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:14,020 there's another it he had some bizarre 1683 01:07:20,910 --> 01:07:18,130 experiences of course he claims seeing 1684 01:07:23,790 --> 01:07:20,920 one of these orbs turned into a wolf oh 1685 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:23,800 wow there's actually in the literature 1686 01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:25,690 there's a lot of strange there are other 1687 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:27,550 instances where people see these orb 1688 01:07:31,860 --> 01:07:29,170 things and they become something else 1689 01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:31,870 for rights rights right there are people 1690 01:07:35,250 --> 01:07:33,790 that have stood night vigils in the 1691 01:07:37,530 --> 01:07:35,260 general city it's not just the ranch 1692 01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:37,540 that's crazy if you if you go back in 1693 01:07:42,990 --> 01:07:41,020 fact a few decades there was a book 1694 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:43,000 written called the Utah UFO display 1695 01:07:49,950 --> 01:07:46,210 written by Frank Salisbury in Frank's 1696 01:07:52,110 --> 01:07:49,960 Aylesbury got in touch with a local high 1697 01:07:54,690 --> 01:07:52,120 school teacher named jr. Hicks who had 1698 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:54,700 cataloged it was like a Grand Central 1699 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:55,210 Station 1700 01:08:00,210 --> 01:07:57,850 of flying saucers and landings and so 1701 01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:00,220 forth in that area in that general area 1702 01:08:05,250 --> 01:08:03,430 prior to the all the hullabaloo over the 1703 01:08:07,230 --> 01:08:05,260 skinwalker ranch run it looks still 1704 01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:07,240 available and if you you open the page 1705 01:08:10,740 --> 01:08:09,070 to all that you know it's it's like I 1706 01:08:12,170 --> 01:08:10,750 say Grand Central Station it's not like 1707 01:08:14,070 --> 01:08:12,180 one type of craft there's dozens 1708 01:08:16,050 --> 01:08:14,080 brilliant type of craft that have been 1709 01:08:18,030 --> 01:08:16,060 seen there for decades so it's been a 1710 01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:18,040 hot spot forever the most fascinating 1711 01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:19,240 thing about that is that they never 1712 01:08:23,370 --> 01:08:21,190 repeated that for some reason that is 1713 01:08:25,950 --> 01:08:23,380 that's that's very interesting you know 1714 01:08:28,860 --> 01:08:25,960 it implies that something is going on 1715 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,870 there which the other side is kind of 1716 01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:30,880 yank an eye chain a little bit well you 1717 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:32,350 mentioned that 20 to a million in that 1718 01:08:35,940 --> 01:08:34,330 the funding dried up well there's a 1719 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:35,950 couple things there according to George 1720 01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:38,650 Knapp is that the they were still doing 1721 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:40,990 the investigation they had personnel 1722 01:08:45,270 --> 01:08:43,930 that were already part of the the 1723 01:08:47,730 --> 01:08:45,280 government or the you know the 1724 01:08:50,430 --> 01:08:47,740 governmental department and they would 1725 01:08:53,260 --> 01:08:50,440 would do their regular duties but they 1726 01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:53,270 would still go out 1727 01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:56,480 and do you know UFO investigations Knapp 1728 01:09:00,579 --> 01:08:58,489 was actually George Knapp that is the 1729 01:09:02,559 --> 01:09:00,589 investigative reporter out of Las Vegas 1730 01:09:05,470 --> 01:09:02,569 he was actually pretty too a lot of this 1731 01:09:06,939 --> 01:09:05,480 early but he earlier on but he didn't 1732 01:09:09,549 --> 01:09:06,949 have the green light to talk about it 1733 01:09:11,890 --> 01:09:09,559 yet but he said that they had he said it 1734 01:09:13,899 --> 01:09:11,900 with some of the reports that have come 1735 01:09:16,089 --> 01:09:13,909 out have said that they stopped funding 1736 01:09:17,950 --> 01:09:16,099 it because they it wasn't doing any good 1737 01:09:20,189 --> 01:09:17,960 they weren't finding anything right 1738 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:20,199 and and did you talk earlier about the 1739 01:09:26,379 --> 01:09:22,489 one of the reasons they were doing this 1740 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:26,389 is not to look for et but they were at 1741 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:27,770 least some people were recognizing that 1742 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:30,770 whatever the hell this is is some kind 1743 01:09:35,499 --> 01:09:32,690 of a very high technology that 1744 01:09:37,329 --> 01:09:35,509 apparently we don't have and so you know 1745 01:09:39,220 --> 01:09:37,339 they want it they want to see if we can 1746 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:39,230 figure out what it is who it is and 1747 01:09:42,910 --> 01:09:41,690 emulate it how can we get a hold of it 1748 01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:42,920 right yeah I mean when we were talking 1749 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:45,440 earlier about how X went to this you 1750 01:09:49,930 --> 01:09:47,690 have this forum where they the problem 1751 01:09:51,819 --> 01:09:49,940 given to him the military the State 1752 01:09:53,649 --> 01:09:51,829 Department so on and so forth was what 1753 01:09:55,419 --> 01:09:53,659 would happen if a UFO 1754 01:09:57,010 --> 01:09:55,429 you know landed in the State Department 1755 01:09:59,229 --> 01:09:57,020 had a long dissertation about how we'd 1756 01:10:00,669 --> 01:09:59,239 have to be kumbaya whoever it is the 1757 01:10:02,109 --> 01:10:00,679 scientific community want to know what 1758 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:02,119 it was made of in the military just came 1759 01:10:06,339 --> 01:10:04,610 up and said does it have any weapons and 1760 01:10:08,740 --> 01:10:06,349 how can we get our hands on them that's 1761 01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:08,750 all I cared about you know and the the 1762 01:10:13,330 --> 01:10:11,360 the ten of the program is a little 1763 01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:13,340 interesting or a lot interesting to me 1764 01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:16,670 advanced aerospace threat identification 1765 01:10:22,299 --> 01:10:18,800 program core isn't it strange they put 1766 01:10:24,879 --> 01:10:22,309 in the word threat no because everything 1767 01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:24,889 that is evaluated that way your from the 1768 01:10:29,410 --> 01:10:27,440 from the standpoint of the military from 1769 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:29,420 the Department of Defense is from a 1770 01:10:32,830 --> 01:10:31,610 security basis so no that doesn't 1771 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:32,840 surprise me that you would view 1772 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:36,290 everything as just like you talked about 1773 01:10:42,189 --> 01:10:39,650 with X's working group that he was on 1774 01:10:43,810 --> 01:10:42,199 the military's view was what kind of a 1775 01:10:45,549 --> 01:10:43,820 threat is it and how can we harness that 1776 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:45,559 technology how can we harvest it how can 1777 01:10:50,049 --> 01:10:48,530 we graft onto it and use it right I mean 1778 01:10:51,819 --> 01:10:50,059 the chances are and if this thing you 1779 01:10:53,859 --> 01:10:51,829 know is the explosion we're thinking it 1780 01:10:56,979 --> 01:10:53,869 is the chances are that they're from 1781 01:10:59,049 --> 01:10:56,989 some other planet you know is there who 1782 01:11:00,280 --> 01:10:59,059 knows what the chances are there's also 1783 01:11:02,799 --> 01:11:00,290 a good chance there from other 1784 01:11:04,750 --> 01:11:02,809 dimensions there from other time periods 1785 01:11:05,649 --> 01:11:04,760 there from someplace else that we don't 1786 01:11:08,259 --> 01:11:05,659 even understand 1787 01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:08,269 what you know and I think Emily should 1788 01:11:13,179 --> 01:11:10,880 jump in on this one but we are answering 1789 01:11:14,830 --> 01:11:13,189 this based on the reality or the 1790 01:11:17,859 --> 01:11:14,840 dimensions that we are most comfortable 1791 01:11:20,919 --> 01:11:17,869 with if you were to take somebody who's 1792 01:11:22,330 --> 01:11:20,929 never seen flight you know living in a 1793 01:11:24,850 --> 01:11:22,340 jungle someplace and show all these 1794 01:11:26,859 --> 01:11:24,860 tremendous things they cannot you know 1795 01:11:28,779 --> 01:11:26,869 they're not using it as a unit of 1796 01:11:31,239 --> 01:11:28,789 measure or an evaluation of what's going 1797 01:11:33,549 --> 01:11:31,249 on around them if you're if you 1798 01:11:36,689 --> 01:11:33,559 understand Space Flight you have a 1799 01:11:39,850 --> 01:11:36,699 another part of it we think of you know 1800 01:11:41,589 --> 01:11:39,860 physics propulsion and going as fast as 1801 01:11:45,250 --> 01:11:41,599 we possibly can as a way to get around 1802 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:45,260 there is most likely other technologies 1803 01:11:49,659 --> 01:11:47,530 out there that allows you to do what 1804 01:11:51,909 --> 01:11:49,669 theoretical physicists are pointing 1805 01:11:54,909 --> 01:11:51,919 towards which is folding time and space 1806 01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:54,919 these incredible distances right and 1807 01:11:58,750 --> 01:11:56,510 then when you think about that when you 1808 01:12:00,159 --> 01:11:58,760 hear stuff and it you know switch is not 1809 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:00,169 the only one that's talked about it the 1810 01:12:05,409 --> 01:12:02,050 hole that opens up in the sky and 1811 01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:05,419 aircraft or some kind of spacecraft or 1812 01:12:10,540 --> 01:12:07,840 something comes flying out of it 1813 01:12:12,429 --> 01:12:10,550 transforming and changing the the shapes 1814 01:12:14,830 --> 01:12:12,439 of things as you see it perceive it 1815 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:14,840 going on that's all over the Bible and 1816 01:12:21,909 --> 01:12:17,570 we act like oh you know this is you know 1817 01:12:23,859 --> 01:12:21,919 this those can't be no we we continue to 1818 01:12:25,299 --> 01:12:23,869 define the world as we see it based on 1819 01:12:27,850 --> 01:12:25,309 what we're seeing right they said 1820 01:12:31,810 --> 01:12:27,860 someone said that it's like if someone 1821 01:12:34,689 --> 01:12:31,820 had given you know da Vinci a garage 1822 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:34,699 door opener he'd be fascinated by the 1823 01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:37,130 plastic right you know what I mean he 1824 01:12:41,919 --> 01:12:39,169 the whole idea of what it does where the 1825 01:12:47,790 --> 01:12:41,929 garage is and so way would be just all 1826 01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:47,800 beyond him he'd be the material you know 1827 01:12:53,949 --> 01:12:50,320 Emily what do you think about all this 1828 01:12:55,629 --> 01:12:53,959 wow I look I love that analogy you gave 1829 01:13:01,239 --> 01:12:55,639 to Vinci a garage door apprentice a 1830 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:01,249 plastic right now I yeah I mean I think 1831 01:13:06,429 --> 01:13:03,530 that kind of speaks to the whole UFO 1832 01:13:08,169 --> 01:13:06,439 phenomenon is we don't a lot of the 1833 01:13:10,629 --> 01:13:08,179 things that are seen I mean they're 1834 01:13:13,359 --> 01:13:10,639 unidentified we don't know what they are 1835 01:13:16,540 --> 01:13:13,369 we can't put it into the context of oh 1836 01:13:18,879 --> 01:13:16,550 that's a vehicle from outer space I mean 1837 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:18,889 it may be it may not be we just we just 1838 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:19,280 don't know 1839 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:23,690 technology yet right right and you know 1840 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:25,850 it's like how animals look at the world 1841 01:13:29,950 --> 01:13:27,890 - you know how they say dogs are about 1842 01:13:33,370 --> 01:13:29,960 you know on the intelligence level of a 1843 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:33,380 seven-year-old they you know they know 1844 01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:35,090 what when it's time to eat when it's 1845 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:36,800 time to go for a walk when it's time to 1846 01:13:40,420 --> 01:13:38,690 bike and whatnot yeah but they look at 1847 01:13:43,150 --> 01:13:40,430 our world in a certain way we look at 1848 01:13:44,860 --> 01:13:43,160 how a world in a certain way but there's 1849 01:13:46,660 --> 01:13:44,870 things that dogs can't understand they 1850 01:13:49,090 --> 01:13:46,670 can't understand how an airplane flies 1851 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:49,100 or a train runs and there's there's got 1852 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:51,410 to be stuff that we can't understand we 1853 01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:52,970 might see it you know what's around us 1854 01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:54,110 all the time but we just don't 1855 01:14:00,690 --> 01:13:57,110 understand it and you know maybe now 1856 01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,700 we're just like you know on the brink of 1857 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:02,960 finding out what all this kind of 1858 01:14:06,250 --> 01:14:04,610 strange stuff isn't going back to what 1859 01:14:08,140 --> 01:14:06,260 Steve was talking about these hotspots 1860 01:14:09,820 --> 01:14:08,150 st. Louis Valley is certainly one of 1861 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:09,830 them where they have UFO was they see 1862 01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:12,530 Bigfoot they see flying humans they see 1863 01:14:16,510 --> 01:14:14,450 you know airplanes disappearing and 1864 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:16,520 stuff like that all these very strange 1865 01:14:20,890 --> 01:14:19,010 things going on and one kind of 1866 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:20,900 concentrated area st. Louis Valley is 1867 01:14:25,930 --> 01:14:23,090 one skinwalker enhances the other Steve 1868 01:14:28,270 --> 01:14:25,940 is are there any air bases are there any 1869 01:14:30,730 --> 01:14:28,280 military bases around skin walking 1870 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:30,740 around so the Bigelow ranch you know I 1871 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:32,570 can't tell you which one it is but that 1872 01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:34,730 that's a kind of a consistent thing and 1873 01:14:39,670 --> 01:14:37,280 in most cases you do find some kind of a 1874 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:39,680 military presence at least in the 1875 01:14:44,910 --> 01:14:42,290 general vicinity right right certainly 1876 01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:44,920 the same we Valley I think has five 1877 01:14:49,060 --> 01:14:47,120 military bases around you know 1878 01:14:50,620 --> 01:14:49,070 surrounding it and it's Chris O'Brien 1879 01:14:52,930 --> 01:14:50,630 who came up with the definition of a 1880 01:14:55,660 --> 01:14:52,940 hotspot that was one of them was that 1881 01:14:58,800 --> 01:14:55,670 it's usually within you know hiking 1882 01:15:02,710 --> 01:14:58,810 distance of some kind of military base 1883 01:15:04,810 --> 01:15:02,720 right you know earlier Matthew mentioned 1884 01:15:08,650 --> 01:15:04,820 that the 22 million and how everything 1885 01:15:10,990 --> 01:15:08,660 dried up but and of course we could just 1886 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:11,000 mention that if the program was still 1887 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:16,210 going on and the claim but some of the 1888 01:15:20,710 --> 01:15:19,010 the mainstream news media said well they 1889 01:15:21,670 --> 01:15:20,720 quit it because they weren't nothing 1890 01:15:23,410 --> 01:15:21,680 much was going on 1891 01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:23,420 well according to George Knapp who was 1892 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:25,520 again it was privy to a lot of his stuff 1893 01:15:32,170 --> 01:15:28,250 earlier he said there were a dozens of 1894 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:32,180 reports they generated some reports for 1895 01:15:36,700 --> 01:15:32,810 several 1896 01:15:38,890 --> 01:15:36,710 pages he saw one that was 490 pages you 1897 01:15:41,170 --> 01:15:38,900 don't get 490 pages out of nothing or 1898 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:41,180 nothing unless you find him who was 1899 01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,930 telling him to hold off Bigelow and the 1900 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:47,120 board that there was another there was 1901 01:15:52,090 --> 01:15:49,010 an trimmers name it was an astronaut 1902 01:15:54,910 --> 01:15:52,100 that was you know a guy had been on the 1903 01:15:57,610 --> 01:15:54,920 moon and it was also was a congressman 1904 01:15:59,290 --> 01:15:57,620 but yeah I can't think of his name but 1905 01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,300 yep so he was he was actually sitting on 1906 01:16:02,410 --> 01:16:01,040 this board and there were certain things 1907 01:16:04,090 --> 01:16:02,420 he couldn't know about there were 1908 01:16:07,420 --> 01:16:04,100 certain things he was able to know about 1909 01:16:09,490 --> 01:16:07,430 but just glad you keep you know keep his 1910 01:16:11,740 --> 01:16:09,500 lip buttoned until the until the right 1911 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:11,750 time well and now we're assuming is the 1912 01:16:14,860 --> 01:16:13,130 right time there was a direct connection 1913 01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:14,870 between this board know stuff he was 1914 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:17,440 seen with this program that was going on 1915 01:16:23,950 --> 01:16:21,170 yes they were and in fact one of the 1916 01:16:26,740 --> 01:16:23,960 really bizarre things was is that some 1917 01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:26,750 of this money Bigelow spent on on 1918 01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:30,260 rebuilding and setting up buildings that 1919 01:16:37,210 --> 01:16:33,110 to house get this I forget the exact 1920 01:16:40,230 --> 01:16:37,220 wording but material that supposedly has 1921 01:16:41,410 --> 01:16:40,240 come from some of these objects 1922 01:16:43,390 --> 01:16:41,420 implication 1923 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:43,400 you know we again there's this there's a 1924 01:16:46,630 --> 01:16:45,530 big veil of secrecy here but I don't 1925 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:46,640 know if he's talking about crashed 1926 01:16:49,570 --> 01:16:47,810 objects or maybe 1927 01:16:52,090 --> 01:16:49,580 yep with all the weird stuff going on on 1928 01:16:54,850 --> 01:16:52,100 a skinwalker ranch maybe some stuff from 1929 01:16:56,740 --> 01:16:54,860 there but that's uh that's pretty 1930 01:16:57,940 --> 01:16:56,750 intriguing I gotta throw this next 1931 01:16:59,920 --> 01:16:57,950 question to Cobra it would be 1932 01:17:01,930 --> 01:16:59,930 interesting is once again I'm of the 1933 01:17:03,820 --> 01:17:01,940 opinion that the US government they know 1934 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:03,830 your foes exist they might even have 1935 01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:05,810 pieces of UFOs but I don't think they 1936 01:17:09,790 --> 01:17:07,280 know where they're from I don't think 1937 01:17:11,170 --> 01:17:09,800 they know what their origin is but I'm 1938 01:17:13,180 --> 01:17:11,180 gonna throw it back take over and I'm 1939 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:13,190 just to suck all the funny out of the 1940 01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:15,890 room is there any chance cobra that this 1941 01:17:20,410 --> 01:17:18,560 is just some $22 22 million dollar 1942 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:20,420 boondoggle between harry reid and his 1943 01:17:24,580 --> 01:17:22,970 buddy Bigelow to basically grease them 1944 01:17:28,090 --> 01:17:24,590 you know that stuff goes on all the time 1945 01:17:30,580 --> 01:17:28,100 in Washington I'm gonna suck some of it 1946 01:17:32,850 --> 01:17:30,590 there is no doubt in my mind that some 1947 01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:32,860 of the money that went to Bigelow 1948 01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:37,840 boondoggle his technology is is 1949 01:17:43,570 --> 01:17:41,030 interesting he's got this pop-up Space 1950 01:17:46,629 --> 01:17:43,580 Station aperture thing that he wants to 1951 01:17:48,129 --> 01:17:46,639 do I think he's 1952 01:17:49,810 --> 01:17:48,139 probably doing some good work I don't 1953 01:17:52,089 --> 01:17:49,820 know the man I don't know a lot of the 1954 01:17:54,219 --> 01:17:52,099 technology associated with but just the 1955 01:17:56,500 --> 01:17:54,229 players that are involved with this and 1956 01:17:58,179 --> 01:17:56,510 the amount of money that's there and the 1957 01:18:00,339 --> 01:17:58,189 process of being the you know black 1958 01:18:05,529 --> 01:18:00,349 program and no oversight and that stuff 1959 01:18:07,959 --> 01:18:05,539 going on that's that doesn't something 1960 01:18:10,209 --> 01:18:07,969 doesn't seem correct but just like a 1961 01:18:13,389 --> 01:18:10,219 broken clock is Right twice twice a day 1962 01:18:15,339 --> 01:18:13,399 doesn't mean that him being attached to 1963 01:18:17,290 --> 01:18:15,349 this or having some kind of involvement 1964 01:18:20,859 --> 01:18:17,300 that it's wrong or it's not indicated 1965 01:18:22,750 --> 01:18:20,869 but they look and in that it's that 1966 01:18:24,489 --> 01:18:22,760 there's something afoot or there's 1967 01:18:26,819 --> 01:18:24,499 something getting prepared like 1968 01:18:28,779 --> 01:18:26,829 point.this they do this all the time 1969 01:18:30,219 --> 01:18:28,789 there's nothing to see at the Space 1970 01:18:34,270 --> 01:18:30,229 Shuttle but the astronaut puts his hand 1971 01:18:36,909 --> 01:18:34,280 over the lens the all the files for the 1972 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:36,919 from the JFK we talked about JFK 1973 01:18:41,259 --> 01:18:39,050 assassination can be released except for 1974 01:18:44,319 --> 01:18:41,269 the stuff that the CIA by name called 1975 01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:44,329 out does not want released right this 1976 01:18:50,830 --> 01:18:48,800 goes on its Bigelow a herring in this or 1977 01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:50,840 not I don't know but I'm telling you 1978 01:18:56,259 --> 01:18:53,989 that nothing nothing works the way it 1979 01:18:58,569 --> 01:18:56,269 used to nothing is mm-hmm you know 1980 01:19:00,310 --> 01:18:58,579 bonafide fact how these reporters got 1981 01:19:03,609 --> 01:19:00,320 the story I'd love to hear the story of 1982 01:19:05,859 --> 01:19:03,619 how this all clicked what I know and why 1983 01:19:07,719 --> 01:19:05,869 the times why not my god times hasn't 1984 01:19:10,959 --> 01:19:07,729 been interested in this in almost a 1985 01:19:12,909 --> 01:19:10,969 decade yeah now the times has the most 1986 01:19:14,770 --> 01:19:12,919 breaking news that's that that's going 1987 01:19:16,330 --> 01:19:14,780 on but here's the interesting thing 1988 01:19:17,919 --> 01:19:16,340 about that and I know this only because 1989 01:19:20,739 --> 01:19:17,929 I was in the journalism business for a 1990 01:19:24,279 --> 01:19:20,749 while and the PR biz is that 1991 01:19:26,819 --> 01:19:24,289 after next week after after Sunday after 1992 01:19:29,620 --> 01:19:26,829 Christmas okay the week between 1993 01:19:32,409 --> 01:19:29,630 Christmas and New Year's is the dead 1994 01:19:35,919 --> 01:19:32,419 zone when it comes to new stories and 1995 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:35,929 publicity everyone is on vacation no big 1996 01:19:40,089 --> 01:19:37,489 news stories break unless something you 1997 01:19:41,979 --> 01:19:40,099 know catastrophic happens it's hard to 1998 01:19:43,089 --> 01:19:41,989 get press releases published and so on 1999 01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:43,099 and so forth because everyone's 2000 01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:45,409 basically you know on vacation on 2001 01:19:51,399 --> 01:19:48,800 haunting on holiday right so you'll be 2002 01:19:53,620 --> 01:19:51,409 interesting if well be interesting why 2003 01:19:56,169 --> 01:19:53,630 they didn't if the plan was to kind of 2004 01:19:58,330 --> 01:19:56,179 you know put it out to I was a drip by 2005 01:20:00,040 --> 01:19:58,340 drip be interesting why they didn't do 2006 01:20:02,830 --> 01:20:00,050 it laughs and next week 2007 01:20:05,140 --> 01:20:02,840 okay or do they want to come out with it 2008 01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:05,150 and knowing that next week the stories 2009 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:06,710 you know there's a good chance the story 2010 01:20:11,980 --> 01:20:10,130 is going to go away just how the media 2011 01:20:14,020 --> 01:20:11,990 handles it and you're right the why the 2012 01:20:16,570 --> 01:20:14,030 New York Times you know I mean of all 2013 01:20:18,610 --> 01:20:16,580 the of all the newspapers to go with 2014 01:20:20,140 --> 01:20:18,620 this they seem the most but they're the 2015 01:20:21,850 --> 01:20:20,150 most believable you know what I mean 2016 01:20:23,620 --> 01:20:21,860 even though they're not a very good 2017 01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:23,630 newspaper here they came out in the New 2018 01:20:28,210 --> 01:20:25,280 York Post or one of these kind of 2019 01:20:30,220 --> 01:20:28,220 tabloid things people would tend to not 2020 01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:30,230 to have believed it but you know some 2021 01:20:34,660 --> 01:20:32,270 reason the other time you know puts the 2022 01:20:36,970 --> 01:20:34,670 step of you know the quality stamp on it 2023 01:20:38,710 --> 01:20:36,980 I think we're gonna go through a break 2024 01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:38,720 very soon but hey listen Emily I want to 2025 01:20:41,950 --> 01:20:40,430 ask you we gotta bring this up in the 2026 01:20:43,390 --> 01:20:41,960 next segment and we're also want to talk 2027 01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:43,400 about as where is everyone else these 2028 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:45,590 two f-18 fighter pilots came out and 2029 01:20:49,210 --> 01:20:47,090 they gave really good descriptions and 2030 01:20:52,090 --> 01:20:49,220 really good interviews backed up by the 2031 01:20:53,260 --> 01:20:52,100 video the HUD video but where is 2032 01:20:55,090 --> 01:20:53,270 everyone else we'll talk about that in 2033 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:55,100 the other segment but Emily this this is 2034 01:20:59,980 --> 01:20:56,690 not the first program that the US 2035 01:21:04,270 --> 01:20:59,990 government had put together to look into 2036 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:04,280 UFOs right oh not at all what were the 2037 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:06,890 other ones oh do we have time before the 2038 01:21:18,850 --> 01:21:16,120 alright I'll talk fast so yes there were 2039 01:21:21,070 --> 01:21:18,860 other programs that were started by the 2040 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:21,080 government the Air Force specifically to 2041 01:21:27,660 --> 01:21:24,290 investigate UFO activity the first of 2042 01:21:31,390 --> 01:21:27,670 which being project sign back in 1947 2043 01:21:33,850 --> 01:21:31,400 and it was fairly short-lived ended at 2044 01:21:37,210 --> 01:21:33,860 the end of 1948 and it was was together 2045 01:21:38,620 --> 01:21:37,220 well when we go out to eat we never 2046 01:21:41,230 --> 01:21:38,630 agree on where to go 2047 01:21:43,090 --> 01:21:41,240 what burgers heats up tacos it is the 2048 01:21:45,250 --> 01:21:43,100 one thing we do agree on is we all want 2049 01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:45,260 unlimited high-speed data that's why we 2050 01:21:50,020 --> 01:21:48,320 switch to metro pcs stop by metro pcs 2051 01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:50,030 with the whole family and get four lines 2052 01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:52,400 with unlimited LTE data for just $100 2053 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:55,040 period metro pcs Wireless figured out 2054 01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:56,330 covers not available in some areas 2055 01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:57,410 offers for our coordinate number not 2056 01:21:59,530 --> 01:21:58,370 currently active on t-mobile network 2057 01:22:00,760 --> 01:21:59,540 during congestion the fraction of 2058 01:22:02,140 --> 01:22:00,770 customers uses more than 35 gigs per 2059 01:22:03,790 --> 01:22:02,150 month may notice reduced beats video 2060 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:03,800 streams depth 240p no tethering ceased 2061 01:22:09,180 --> 01:22:04,970 or for details in terms and conditions 2062 01:22:15,209 --> 01:22:12,809 have another name but 2063 01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:15,219 it was started to be able to investigate 2064 01:22:20,099 --> 01:22:17,679 these sightings that you know civilians 2065 01:22:22,289 --> 01:22:20,109 well not just civilians but and military 2066 01:22:25,049 --> 01:22:22,299 personnel were reporting of seeing these 2067 01:22:27,029 --> 01:22:25,059 unidentified flying objects in the sky 2068 01:22:29,489 --> 01:22:27,039 or flying saucers flying discs what they 2069 01:22:30,929 --> 01:22:29,499 called back then UFO wasn't actually 2070 01:22:33,089 --> 01:22:30,939 coined as a term I don't think until 2071 01:22:36,559 --> 01:22:33,099 Project Blue Book 2072 01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:36,569 but basically what came out of that 2073 01:22:44,039 --> 01:22:39,760 investigation was that it was that their 2074 01:22:47,759 --> 01:22:44,049 data was inconclusive however I think it 2075 01:22:52,409 --> 01:22:47,769 was Captain Edward ruppelt my butchering 2076 01:22:54,719 --> 01:22:52,419 his name repels repels he had he had 2077 01:22:56,309 --> 01:22:54,729 come out and said that they had 2078 01:22:58,679 --> 01:22:56,319 determined that the flying saucers that 2079 01:23:01,589 --> 01:22:58,689 were being reported they were real 2080 01:23:05,009 --> 01:23:01,599 physical aircraft of some sort they were 2081 01:23:08,579 --> 01:23:05,019 not of us or Soviet origin and that they 2082 01:23:10,859 --> 01:23:08,589 were likely extraterrestrial spacecrafts 2083 01:23:14,549 --> 01:23:10,869 and apparently that report got submitted 2084 01:23:16,770 --> 01:23:14,559 to the Pentagon and the the US Air Force 2085 01:23:19,469 --> 01:23:16,780 chief of staff at the time shot that 2086 01:23:26,099 --> 01:23:19,479 down destroyed you know that report nice 2087 01:23:27,869 --> 01:23:26,109 visual and he said this is not the 2088 01:23:30,209 --> 01:23:27,879 conclusion we wanted you people through 2089 01:23:33,449 --> 01:23:30,219 come to back in go back and come to 2090 01:23:36,899 --> 01:23:33,459 another game right a couple of those 2091 01:23:39,509 --> 01:23:36,909 projects oh you were yeah 2092 01:24:10,770 --> 01:23:39,519 no you clean it with a conclusion you're 2093 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:10,780 told to go back and listen to mommy's no 2094 01:24:13,829 --> 01:24:12,489 tracks I'll show here on the distant 2095 01:24:16,369 --> 01:24:13,839 Thunder radio network we're talking 2096 01:24:19,619 --> 01:24:16,379 about this newly released newly revealed 2097 01:24:21,149 --> 01:24:19,629 Pentagon project looking into UFOs 2098 01:24:23,729 --> 01:24:21,159 something they were telling us they 2099 01:24:25,700 --> 01:24:23,739 weren't doing for the past 30 years well 2100 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:25,710 they lied to us they have been doing it 2101 01:24:29,420 --> 01:24:28,170 we're running it and now we're talking 2102 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:29,430 about it so why don't we take a 2103 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:32,010 commercial break now and we'll be right 2104 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:38,730 back after this stay tuned I'll show 2105 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:40,050 here on the distant Thunder radio 2106 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:42,930 network this is valuable money got a 2107 01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:44,730 crowd of people hit the night but no one 2108 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:47,040 won sorry girls I could be crying out 2109 01:24:51,970 --> 01:24:49,530 there he's on his own secret mission but 2110 01:24:54,890 --> 01:24:51,980 joining us is the equally famous 2111 01:24:58,570 --> 01:24:54,900 commander Cobra from his undisclosed 2112 01:25:03,110 --> 01:24:58,580 location good evening gentlemen and lady 2113 01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:03,120 and also joining us up there in the 2114 01:25:09,290 --> 01:25:05,600 disclosed location of the bowl of flakes 2115 01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:09,300 Battle Creek Michigan which why do I 2116 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:10,800 want to call you switchboard Steve 2117 01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,930 what's going on switchblade Steve won 2118 01:25:20,540 --> 01:25:14,880 maybe you could just call me a snap 2119 01:25:23,229 --> 01:25:20,550 crackle and pop you know when the funny 2120 01:25:25,330 --> 01:25:23,239 legs you can always count on switchblade 2121 01:25:28,130 --> 01:25:25,340 you're doing okay up there tonight 2122 01:25:31,270 --> 01:25:28,140 really good all right what's your 2123 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:31,280 favorite Cyril again shredded wheat I 2124 01:25:38,270 --> 01:25:34,770 can't stand sweet I grew up on readings 2125 01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:38,280 but I like that behind I'm eating some 2126 01:25:48,340 --> 01:25:41,040 kind of stuff that my doctor recommended 2127 01:25:50,750 --> 01:25:48,350 I should I have great fiber nutrition 2128 01:25:53,870 --> 01:25:50,760 sugar on your Captain Crunch if I see 2129 01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:53,880 you again that's best friend too much 2130 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:54,239 sugar 2131 01:25:59,300 --> 01:25:56,850 anyway classing up the show Emily 2132 01:26:02,870 --> 01:25:59,310 minimizer is with us Emily M joining us 2133 01:26:06,050 --> 01:26:02,880 some Cincinnati hello there in 2134 01:26:08,660 --> 01:26:06,060 Cincinnati tonight right I am yeah kind 2135 01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:08,670 of a world traveler aren't you in your 2136 01:26:14,270 --> 01:26:11,840 other job I do I travel quite a bit 2137 01:26:16,970 --> 01:26:14,280 one of my first nights in Cincinnati and 2138 01:26:20,180 --> 01:26:16,980 quite a while okay all right another 2139 01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:20,190 show we're talking about I mean I'm 2140 01:26:24,110 --> 01:26:22,320 assuming it's another show we're talking 2141 01:26:26,150 --> 01:26:24,120 about the secret Pentagon program 2142 01:26:28,729 --> 01:26:26,160 looking at the UFOs that there was just 2143 01:26:32,750 --> 01:26:28,739 recently revealed last week it came 2144 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:32,760 company by two perfectly edited videos 2145 01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:35,930 from the US Navy showing f-18 pilots 2146 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:39,360 chasing these things the video is in 2147 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:39,810 Crystal 2148 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:41,010 Leigha but there's something out there 2149 01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:43,530 and what also convinces me is that you 2150 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:45,120 know these pilots who you know they just 2151 01:26:48,230 --> 01:26:47,250 don't let anyone fly an f-18 these guys 2152 01:26:50,570 --> 01:26:48,240 know what they're doing 2153 01:26:52,010 --> 01:26:50,580 they've seen a lot of strange stuff they 2154 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:52,020 know when they see something whether 2155 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:53,610 it's Venus or another airplane or 2156 01:26:56,990 --> 01:26:55,050 whatever and when they say we didn't 2157 01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:57,000 know what this these things were and 2158 01:27:00,230 --> 01:26:58,010 they said there was a fleet of them 2159 01:27:01,940 --> 01:27:00,240 coming out of the ocean of all things 2160 01:27:03,950 --> 01:27:01,950 when they say we don't know what they 2161 01:27:06,140 --> 01:27:03,960 were and that they were from you know 2162 01:27:08,300 --> 01:27:06,150 breaking the laws of aerodynamics as we 2163 01:27:11,330 --> 01:27:08,310 know them I believe them I believe them 2164 01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,340 you know because they've seen it all so 2165 01:27:15,260 --> 01:27:13,920 we were just going to talk before we get 2166 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:15,270 into the other programs that the US 2167 01:27:22,250 --> 01:27:17,970 government used to have to look into 2168 01:27:27,170 --> 01:27:22,260 UFOs this idea you know why now Cobra 2169 01:27:28,910 --> 01:27:27,180 why now and is this just you know the 2170 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:28,920 first step is there another shoe gonna 2171 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:31,050 drop out there do you think yes I think 2172 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:32,130 that another shoe is gonna drop 2173 01:27:36,530 --> 01:27:34,080 I do not think it's a clean answer I 2174 01:27:37,490 --> 01:27:36,540 believe that it is multifaceted that 2175 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:37,500 there is a certain amount of 2176 01:27:40,220 --> 01:27:38,850 disinformation in there there's a 2177 01:27:42,770 --> 01:27:40,230 certain amount of normalising or 2178 01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:42,780 socializing what's coming next I think 2179 01:27:49,340 --> 01:27:46,320 that there's a spirit of destabilizing 2180 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:49,350 every kind of institution and foundation 2181 01:27:52,490 --> 01:27:50,850 I don't mean that as a bad thing I just 2182 01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:52,500 think that it's basically kind of a 2183 01:27:57,440 --> 01:27:55,410 cause celeb in the last few years that 2184 01:28:00,530 --> 01:27:57,450 we've we've just gone to this cycle and 2185 01:28:03,170 --> 01:28:00,540 it's also an insatiable appetite for the 2186 01:28:05,210 --> 01:28:03,180 next thing that's gonna fascinate us so 2187 01:28:06,980 --> 01:28:05,220 this big thing yeah yeah I think that's 2188 01:28:09,890 --> 01:28:06,990 a part of it I just gotta ask this and 2189 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:09,900 just please give me a yes or no answer 2190 01:28:15,740 --> 01:28:12,330 okay is this happening because of the 2191 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:15,750 new resident in the White House yes Wow 2192 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:20,490 that is depressing Emily so there you go 2193 01:28:25,570 --> 01:28:23,010 okay hang on you know what just for the 2194 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:29,030 now Emily as we were saying before in 2195 01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:30,810 the other segment this is not the first 2196 01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:32,370 time that the u.s. government has put 2197 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:34,710 together a program you know to look at 2198 01:28:40,850 --> 01:28:38,010 UFOs and project Bluebook I know was 2199 01:28:43,970 --> 01:28:40,860 started after the Korean War and ended 2200 01:28:47,180 --> 01:28:43,980 in 1967 they said that they were looking 2201 01:28:48,860 --> 01:28:47,190 at the UFOs everyone used to think oh 2202 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:48,870 they made it they made it appear like 2203 01:28:52,130 --> 01:28:50,610 Project Blue Book was like this big 2204 01:28:52,710 --> 01:28:52,140 building like mass or and people running 2205 01:28:54,420 --> 01:28:52,720 around 2206 01:28:58,410 --> 01:28:54,430 white coats and everything and it never 2207 01:28:59,790 --> 01:28:58,420 was more than like an f1 officer and 2208 01:29:01,800 --> 01:28:59,800 like two secretaries you know they 2209 01:29:04,910 --> 01:29:01,810 didn't really look into something it was 2210 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:04,920 just kind of like lip service right 2211 01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:07,930 right yeah Project Blue Book was I mean 2212 01:29:14,370 --> 01:29:11,170 the the staff was very small for that 2213 01:29:16,290 --> 01:29:14,380 and it seemed like it through its 2214 01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:16,300 history cuz Blue Book was started in 2215 01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:18,910 between sign and Blue Book was project 2216 01:29:23,940 --> 01:29:21,670 grudge which lasted I think about three 2217 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:23,950 years right and was basically used to 2218 01:29:30,330 --> 01:29:27,730 kind of debunk any you know UFO activity 2219 01:29:31,770 --> 01:29:30,340 and and basically say oh it can be 2220 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:31,780 explained by other things it was just 2221 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:33,850 misinterpreted by people who saw it but 2222 01:29:41,790 --> 01:29:35,770 yeah when Project Blue Book came around 2223 01:29:45,450 --> 01:29:41,800 officially in 1952 and and it was in 2224 01:29:47,490 --> 01:29:45,460 effect or active through 1969 and and 2225 01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:47,500 they did take all the reports of of 2226 01:29:52,590 --> 01:29:49,840 sightings that had happened from people 2227 01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:52,600 and it sounded like through those years 2228 01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:56,110 that that it was active that depending 2229 01:30:00,120 --> 01:29:57,520 on who was the director of the project 2230 01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:00,130 the actual investigation into these 2231 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:03,310 sightings varied greatly from actually 2232 01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:06,130 really putting effort into investigating 2233 01:30:09,150 --> 01:30:07,570 these and trying to figure out what 2234 01:30:09,930 --> 01:30:09,160 these sightings could have been and what 2235 01:30:11,970 --> 01:30:09,940 people saw 2236 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:11,980 - not even investigating them at all 2237 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:13,930 just right you know being that you know 2238 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:17,530 kind of the the public face for what 2239 01:30:21,630 --> 01:30:18,730 activity was happening and they were 2240 01:30:24,690 --> 01:30:21,640 trying to to lessen the public's 2241 01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:24,700 interest in well they did that I read 2242 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:26,410 once that what they used to do is that 2243 01:30:29,850 --> 01:30:27,970 you know they would get all kinds of 2244 01:30:30,990 --> 01:30:29,860 reports people would send it to them and 2245 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:31,000 what they used to do is they used to 2246 01:30:36,150 --> 01:30:33,370 like explain the ones that they could 2247 01:30:37,860 --> 01:30:36,160 already solve you don't like Venus was 2248 01:30:39,390 --> 01:30:37,870 very bright that night and it was you 2249 01:30:42,090 --> 01:30:39,400 know and probably what the person saw 2250 01:30:43,980 --> 01:30:42,100 was Venus you know you know people saw 2251 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:43,990 you know ten lights going over the sky 2252 01:30:47,460 --> 01:30:45,130 well they found out that there were a 2253 01:30:49,620 --> 01:30:47,470 maneuvers area you know it was maneuvers 2254 01:30:51,090 --> 01:30:49,630 in that area you know at that time and 2255 01:30:53,190 --> 01:30:51,100 they say what you were saying was this 2256 01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:53,200 they they they explained the ones that 2257 01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:54,730 they already knew the answer to it the 2258 01:30:58,830 --> 01:30:57,280 ones that were unknown you know they did 2259 01:31:00,660 --> 01:30:58,840 they didn't even touch but they did say 2260 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:00,670 when they closed it in 69 I believe they 2261 01:31:05,379 --> 01:31:02,650 did say that there was about 700 cases 2262 01:31:07,390 --> 01:31:05,389 that they could not solve and 2263 01:31:09,580 --> 01:31:07,400 and in my opinion no that's like ghost 2264 01:31:11,620 --> 01:31:09,590 if one if there's one real ghost 2265 01:31:13,629 --> 01:31:11,630 sighting than ghosts exists if there's 2266 01:31:16,419 --> 01:31:13,639 one real UFO sightings than UFOs exist 2267 01:31:18,550 --> 01:31:16,429 you know so was it around 702 so they 2268 01:31:31,629 --> 01:31:18,560 they admitted they couldn't solve right 2269 01:31:35,290 --> 01:31:31,639 I think was 701 that's a lot so they 2270 01:31:37,930 --> 01:31:35,300 were really just give when you hit 701 2271 01:31:40,300 --> 01:31:37,940 you know you got a have to do something 2272 01:31:43,570 --> 01:31:40,310 you know so so really when that ended in 2273 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:43,580 69 when they suppose the closed shop on 2274 01:31:48,729 --> 01:31:46,610 it you know and up until now 2275 01:31:51,070 --> 01:31:48,739 they said that nope there was no US 2276 01:31:54,939 --> 01:31:51,080 military program looking into UFOs they 2277 01:31:56,459 --> 01:31:54,949 were lying to us right yeah you know 2278 01:31:58,930 --> 01:31:56,469 what to consult a lawyer on that one yes 2279 01:32:02,470 --> 01:31:58,940 okay just want to get it down there I'm 2280 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:02,480 not you know for the record do you think 2281 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:04,130 Emily you give me you looked into blue 2282 01:32:09,189 --> 01:32:07,250 book you looked into grudge do you think 2283 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:09,199 that you know they just secretly carried 2284 01:32:17,859 --> 01:32:13,010 on blue book a lot of people do I think 2285 01:32:19,359 --> 01:32:17,869 it's likely because I mean they 2286 01:32:21,729 --> 01:32:19,369 obviously started these projects for a 2287 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:21,739 reason and they had you know I mean it's 2288 01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:24,770 in their reports and the archives that 2289 01:32:29,290 --> 01:32:26,449 that clearly says that there are all 2290 01:32:31,419 --> 01:32:29,300 these cases that remain you know 2291 01:32:33,459 --> 01:32:31,429 unidentified so I would think they would 2292 01:32:34,870 --> 01:32:33,469 be curious to find I mean there's 2293 01:32:36,879 --> 01:32:34,880 something going on and there might be 2294 01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:36,889 technology that we want to get our hands 2295 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:38,510 on so yeah I think they did continue 2296 01:32:43,379 --> 01:32:41,570 afterwards to continue things Co but you 2297 01:32:46,359 --> 01:32:43,389 think you know they just you know 2298 01:32:48,609 --> 01:32:46,369 contracted it out and you know ended the 2299 01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:48,619 paper trail kind of you know they keep 2300 01:32:53,229 --> 01:32:50,449 morphing it into different areas to keep 2301 01:32:55,930 --> 01:32:53,239 applying it I they want no one to have 2302 01:32:58,570 --> 01:32:55,940 too much information on it you're going 2303 01:33:00,520 --> 01:32:58,580 to change our people excuse me once you 2304 01:33:03,790 --> 01:33:00,530 have the changes in assignments Steve I 2305 01:33:06,459 --> 01:33:03,800 mean you you know that nothing ever 2306 01:33:08,229 --> 01:33:06,469 stays the same person right right and 2307 01:33:10,540 --> 01:33:08,239 you know it might just be a matter of 2308 01:33:12,580 --> 01:33:10,550 semantics they they killed blue book but 2309 01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:12,590 you can be sure that there are always 2310 01:33:17,379 --> 01:33:14,719 elements within the government that were 2311 01:33:19,090 --> 01:33:17,389 you know I mean I think blue book that 2312 01:33:21,250 --> 01:33:19,100 one to ask Emily a little bit if she 2313 01:33:23,050 --> 01:33:21,260 thought that Blue Book if they were ever 2314 01:33:24,850 --> 01:33:23,060 serious and you kind of answered that a 2315 01:33:26,470 --> 01:33:24,860 little bit with different directors you 2316 01:33:28,210 --> 01:33:26,480 thought were more serious than others 2317 01:33:31,330 --> 01:33:28,220 but I think toward the end it just 2318 01:33:33,070 --> 01:33:31,340 seemed like it was a public relations 2319 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:33,080 thing you know we've got this here to 2320 01:33:36,700 --> 01:33:34,850 sort of a buffer between people that are 2321 01:33:38,710 --> 01:33:36,710 really seeing things and we'll just kind 2322 01:33:40,330 --> 01:33:38,720 of appease them and you know give an 2323 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:40,340 explanation we're taking care of it 2324 01:33:44,620 --> 01:33:42,410 which a lot of times you pick people 2325 01:33:48,250 --> 01:33:44,630 that are zealots because you think 2326 01:33:51,190 --> 01:33:48,260 they're gonna be useful good or bad to 2327 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:51,200 drive that and it's obvious that some of 2328 01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:53,330 the energy that Bluebook created or what 2329 01:34:00,250 --> 01:33:56,810 went on there allowed for a curtain to 2330 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:00,260 go up for other activities and and take 2331 01:34:04,060 --> 01:34:02,330 that away and the paranoia of what was 2332 01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:04,070 going on with the Soviets I mean this is 2333 01:34:07,770 --> 01:34:05,840 also the same error where we got it 2334 01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:07,780 wrong on one of the May Day parades 2335 01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:10,880 because the the b6 bomber that was 2336 01:34:14,710 --> 01:34:12,890 flying the formation was flying it was 2337 01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:14,720 the same ones flying over and over again 2338 01:34:17,530 --> 01:34:16,130 and as they were pounding it when they 2339 01:34:19,570 --> 01:34:17,540 saw it in the film they said oh my god 2340 01:34:21,730 --> 01:34:19,580 we have a right to them 2341 01:34:23,890 --> 01:34:21,740 and then no one ever took the time to 2342 01:34:25,180 --> 01:34:23,900 check the frigging serial numbers on the 2343 01:34:27,370 --> 01:34:25,190 sides of the airplane that would row 2344 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:27,380 visible were the same friggin airplanes 2345 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:38,380 like hey you know boris and Natasha 2346 01:34:41,710 --> 01:34:39,890 you're right watch out for squirrel 2347 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:41,720 moose moose he's got it you know 2348 01:34:48,070 --> 01:34:45,170 unbelievable Yeah right right I mean in 2349 01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:48,080 I just have to keep coming back to this 2350 01:34:54,010 --> 01:34:51,650 one side is you know why now I know I 2351 01:34:58,060 --> 01:34:54,020 sound like a broken record but you know 2352 01:35:00,070 --> 01:34:58,070 is it just you know Steve is big low is 2353 01:35:04,090 --> 01:35:00,080 he met the president has he talked to 2354 01:35:06,370 --> 01:35:04,100 the press yet about this you know what I 2355 01:35:08,770 --> 01:35:06,380 don't know if he has I don't would have 2356 01:35:10,660 --> 01:35:08,780 seen it we would enjoy it he was on 60 2357 01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:10,670 minutes not too long ago that just in 2358 01:35:14,230 --> 01:35:12,770 the event that I was just gonna say that 2359 01:35:16,930 --> 01:35:14,240 you know is he gonna be on 60 minutes 2360 01:35:18,580 --> 01:35:16,940 how long ago was that well that was some 2361 01:35:20,770 --> 01:35:18,590 months ago it was a really you know 2362 01:35:23,020 --> 01:35:20,780 wasn't too long ago but he you know they 2363 01:35:24,070 --> 01:35:23,030 whoever I forget I don't know who was I 2364 01:35:25,630 --> 01:35:24,080 was interviewing him but you know 2365 01:35:27,910 --> 01:35:25,640 there's that that sort of built-in 2366 01:35:29,770 --> 01:35:27,920 giggle factor literally mainstream media 2367 01:35:32,419 --> 01:35:29,780 they could asking him you know do you 2368 01:35:33,589 --> 01:35:32,429 are you afraid of what people 2369 01:35:35,449 --> 01:35:33,599 gonna say about you if they're gonna 2370 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:35,459 laugh at you he says I don't give a damn 2371 01:35:38,899 --> 01:35:37,170 you know this is real this is this the 2372 01:35:41,779 --> 01:35:38,909 et presence is a real thing it's a real 2373 01:35:43,250 --> 01:35:41,789 physical thing and you know the 2374 01:35:45,939 --> 01:35:43,260 interesting thing about him you guys are 2375 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:45,949 talking about paper trails and so forth 2376 01:35:50,569 --> 01:35:48,570 however this was funded this 22 million 2377 01:35:52,790 --> 01:35:50,579 and so forth and in supporting I was 2378 01:35:55,580 --> 01:35:52,800 actually supporting a private contractor 2379 01:35:58,750 --> 01:35:55,590 it was done in such a way that you can't 2380 01:36:01,640 --> 01:35:58,760 get FOIA requests to fines right program 2381 01:36:03,319 --> 01:36:01,650 reason why this and it's right for what 2382 01:36:05,149 --> 01:36:03,329 Mac had brought up before that this 2383 01:36:06,919 --> 01:36:05,159 could just be a very convenient payoff 2384 01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:06,929 to a guy who's kind of interested in 2385 01:36:11,209 --> 01:36:09,689 this stuff and is is gonna do it it 2386 01:36:13,429 --> 01:36:11,219 doesn't mean it's not legitimate but 2387 01:36:15,199 --> 01:36:13,439 it's definitely but I have to thank you 2388 01:36:17,299 --> 01:36:15,209 the question of why does it lock this 2389 01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:17,309 Depot lack of oversight and FOIA is a 2390 01:36:24,020 --> 01:36:20,639 huge problem but cobra bite my sense is 2391 01:36:25,219 --> 01:36:24,030 that because it's Bigelow that there may 2392 01:36:27,979 --> 01:36:25,229 be some of that there but I think 2393 01:36:30,830 --> 01:36:27,989 Bigelow is is dead serious about this 2394 01:36:32,569 --> 01:36:30,840 stuff and it's really it's a guy now I 2395 01:36:34,790 --> 01:36:32,579 know a lot of crazy people that are dead 2396 01:36:36,469 --> 01:36:34,800 serious about stuff and he does not give 2397 01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:36,479 me the warm and fuzzy whatsoever a 2398 01:36:40,250 --> 01:36:38,400 starting well he's not it's not warm and 2399 01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:40,260 fuzzy and I was was disappointed that 2400 01:36:43,939 --> 01:36:42,449 originally when when he took over with 2401 01:36:46,250 --> 01:36:43,949 the NIN's team I thought oh finally 2402 01:36:47,839 --> 01:36:46,260 here's a private entity and we'll get 2403 01:36:49,370 --> 01:36:47,849 answers you know and unlike the 2404 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:49,380 government but keeps everything quiet 2405 01:36:53,179 --> 01:36:51,570 well he's keeping things quiet too we're 2406 01:36:55,370 --> 01:36:53,189 not you know we got this hunt for the 2407 01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:55,380 skinwalker a book and he was sorry that 2408 01:36:58,609 --> 01:36:56,880 he ever released that because we've got 2409 01:37:01,850 --> 01:36:58,619 all these ability the whole that's what 2410 01:37:04,279 --> 01:37:01,860 happens why why is he keeping the secret 2411 01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:04,289 why he's got 22 million bucks and he's 2412 01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:07,920 got the future a whole lot of money to 2413 01:37:12,949 --> 01:37:09,840 this guy though is it from what I've 2414 01:37:14,330 --> 01:37:12,959 understood I mean he's a billionaire and 2415 01:37:18,379 --> 01:37:14,340 if you're a billionaire and you get to 2416 01:37:20,179 --> 01:37:18,389 keep more of it then please yeah how can 2417 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:20,189 you think that how come people that are 2418 01:37:24,199 --> 01:37:22,050 billionaires don't turn altruistic on 2419 01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:24,209 everything why do they know they're 2420 01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:25,920 getting more money is what it is I'm 2421 01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:27,360 sure he's getting paid me might be 2422 01:37:31,069 --> 01:37:29,489 getting paid from somewhere else you 2423 01:37:32,419 --> 01:37:31,079 know it that's it that's another thing 2424 01:37:36,199 --> 01:37:32,429 and I said earlier in the show is that 2425 01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:36,209 you know 22 million dollars is exit 2 2426 01:37:40,370 --> 01:37:38,249 mese is the yep for spends 22 million 2427 01:37:42,770 --> 01:37:40,380 dollars on their on their golf courses 2428 01:37:45,379 --> 01:37:42,780 in this country every year it's nothing 2429 01:37:46,170 --> 01:37:45,389 it's nothing to a 600 billion dollar 2430 01:37:48,420 --> 01:37:46,180 Pentagon 2431 01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:48,430 budget and who god knows what the black 2432 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:49,210 object 2433 01:37:54,330 --> 01:37:52,090 you know ops budget is you know it's 2434 01:37:57,300 --> 01:37:54,340 it's nothing yet I saw a lot of the 2435 01:37:59,970 --> 01:37:57,310 media say what are we wasting this on UF 2436 01:38:03,420 --> 01:37:59,980 Aldo and all this kind of stuff that 2437 01:38:05,010 --> 01:38:03,430 ridicule factor is in there I wish Peter 2438 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:05,020 Jennings was still around because he did 2439 01:38:09,450 --> 01:38:07,690 that grade three hour I'm sure one UFOs 2440 01:38:11,370 --> 01:38:09,460 about two years before he died and that 2441 01:38:13,470 --> 01:38:11,380 was like the first time ever I saw her 2442 01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:13,480 in mainstream media someone who looked 2443 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:16,030 at it and there was no giggle factor in 2444 01:38:20,700 --> 01:38:18,130 there you know but it did take a turn 2445 01:38:22,590 --> 01:38:20,710 toward the end they kind of shoveled 2446 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:22,600 away all those great sightings and then 2447 01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:24,610 they went to SETI you know they search 2448 01:38:30,020 --> 01:38:26,170 for extraterrestrial intelligence and 2449 01:38:32,570 --> 01:38:30,030 really know they've got these big guys 2450 01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:32,580 listening when they when the when the 2451 01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:40,510 aliens are landing right behind them so 2452 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:43,360 Emily back then way back then you know 2453 01:38:46,050 --> 01:38:44,770 with project grudge and everything if 2454 01:38:48,450 --> 01:38:46,060 they can't start it out with good 2455 01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:48,460 intentions right until they came to 2456 01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:50,350 something that you know the big shots 2457 01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:51,760 that depending on just didn't want to 2458 01:38:56,820 --> 01:38:54,310 hear right I think I think they did and 2459 01:38:58,890 --> 01:38:56,830 and what I find interesting is I was on 2460 01:39:01,830 --> 01:38:58,900 the the National Archives website 2461 01:39:04,230 --> 01:39:01,840 looking at where you could go to view 2462 01:39:06,630 --> 01:39:04,240 the the declassified documents from 2463 01:39:09,210 --> 01:39:06,640 Project Blue Book you know in Washington 2464 01:39:11,910 --> 01:39:09,220 isn't a trip to a crazy mind the 2465 01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:11,920 notional archives oh my god I want to go 2466 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:14,080 there might need to make a trip but I 2467 01:39:19,020 --> 01:39:16,690 found it odd that on the website they 2468 01:39:21,740 --> 01:39:19,030 refer to any time that they referred to 2469 01:39:25,530 --> 01:39:21,750 the Roswell sighting an incident 2470 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:25,540 incident was in quotes like it wasn't 2471 01:39:31,020 --> 01:39:29,050 real and I just I found that so weird 2472 01:39:33,450 --> 01:39:31,030 coming from a government website I mean 2473 01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:33,460 I know they're they have you know except 2474 01:39:37,050 --> 01:39:35,110 for the first day have always said it 2475 01:39:39,540 --> 01:39:37,060 was a weather balloon it wasn't a UFO 2476 01:39:42,180 --> 01:39:39,550 but on the first day they did say was a 2477 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:42,190 UFO deadly right and then after that 2478 01:39:47,850 --> 01:39:44,770 they they said no it's not and even to 2479 01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:47,860 this day on on their their website they 2480 01:39:52,830 --> 01:39:50,080 refer to it as an incident well the 2481 01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:52,840 hobgoblin of consistency grind slowly 2482 01:39:58,129 --> 01:39:55,449 and government 2483 01:40:00,930 --> 01:39:58,139 well well it's I don't know very 2484 01:40:03,839 --> 01:40:00,940 interesting and you know what I want to 2485 01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:03,849 know is and we will still then we'll 2486 01:40:07,890 --> 01:40:05,590 talk about this on future shows but 2487 01:40:09,689 --> 01:40:07,900 we've talked about this before and you 2488 01:40:12,029 --> 01:40:09,699 said it earlier Cobra where's everyone 2489 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:12,039 else these two f-18 pilots actually I 2490 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:14,530 only saw one of them he came out he had 2491 01:40:18,810 --> 01:40:17,530 been retired for quite a while yep yep 2492 01:40:22,529 --> 01:40:18,820 no books 2493 01:40:26,430 --> 01:40:22,539 yet you know you never know and right 2494 01:40:30,089 --> 01:40:26,440 and and he just spoke so well with a lot 2495 01:40:35,009 --> 01:40:30,099 of authority on on this mminton him 2496 01:40:37,290 --> 01:40:35,019 being part of some big plot to it it did 2497 01:40:39,149 --> 01:40:37,300 seem polish and he he's not you know 2498 01:40:40,919 --> 01:40:39,159 it's interesting he's not a typical 2499 01:40:42,419 --> 01:40:40,929 looking to fight a pile which I thought 2500 01:40:44,219 --> 01:40:42,429 he looks like an English professor 2501 01:40:46,109 --> 01:40:44,229 doesn't he you know what I mean didn't 2502 01:40:48,299 --> 01:40:46,119 have the buzz cut the tattoos or any of 2503 01:40:50,310 --> 01:40:48,309 that he looked like he looked like 2504 01:40:54,029 --> 01:40:50,320 English professor to me and which kind 2505 01:40:57,509 --> 01:40:54,039 of gave him more credibility with me but 2506 01:41:02,069 --> 01:40:57,519 where are the thousands of other pilots 2507 01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:02,079 or at least 701 that's right don't you 2508 01:41:05,069 --> 01:41:03,130 think they're still afraid still 2509 01:41:07,049 --> 01:41:05,079 cautious I mean these feet blood come 2510 01:41:09,989 --> 01:41:07,059 out but it's like if I was in that I 2511 01:41:12,359 --> 01:41:09,999 think okay I'm gonna wait a minute you 2512 01:41:14,759 --> 01:41:12,369 know is this gonna blow over because 2513 01:41:16,649 --> 01:41:14,769 they did the press might just come to a 2514 01:41:17,939 --> 01:41:16,659 point and ignore it then it goes away 2515 01:41:20,549 --> 01:41:17,949 even though there's been some real 2516 01:41:22,199 --> 01:41:20,559 substance here all right you've but also 2517 01:41:23,819 --> 01:41:22,209 you've got all these other incidents the 2518 01:41:25,709 --> 01:41:23,829 coin helicopter incident that we've 2519 01:41:26,729 --> 01:41:25,719 talked about before over Ohio the 2520 01:41:28,199 --> 01:41:26,739 helicopter pilot 2521 01:41:30,750 --> 01:41:28,209 where they had a close encounter with 2522 01:41:33,390 --> 01:41:30,760 you in the 1773 where they had that 2523 01:41:37,770 --> 01:41:33,400 where they that the craft seemed to 2524 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:37,780 actually move the the helicopter which 2525 01:41:43,259 --> 01:41:41,170 is you know it was a really bizarre 2526 01:41:44,879 --> 01:41:43,269 experience but you had this maybe what 2527 01:41:46,620 --> 01:41:44,889 six or eight crew members that all saw 2528 01:41:50,459 --> 01:41:46,630 this and you've got dozens and dozens 2529 01:41:52,500 --> 01:41:50,469 and dozens of of credible pilots that 2530 01:41:54,330 --> 01:41:52,510 have seen these things over the years 2531 01:41:57,149 --> 01:41:54,340 alright so Mack how are we gonna find 2532 01:41:59,819 --> 01:41:57,159 these guys this is this is my head there 2533 01:42:01,770 --> 01:41:59,829 okay and we've talked about this before 2534 01:42:05,729 --> 01:42:01,780 in the show how about this why don't we 2535 01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:05,739 call on the US military right now when 2536 01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:07,850 we go out to eat we never 2537 01:42:12,820 --> 01:42:10,850 and where to go burgers pizza tacos it 2538 01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:12,830 is the one thing we do agree on is we 2539 01:42:17,740 --> 01:42:14,480 all want unlimited high-speed data 2540 01:42:19,450 --> 01:42:17,750 that's why we switch to metro pcs stop 2541 01:42:21,490 --> 01:42:19,460 by metro pcs with the whole family and 2542 01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:21,500 get four lines with unlimited LTE data 2543 01:42:26,260 --> 01:42:24,650 for just $100 period metro pcs Wireless 2544 01:42:27,580 --> 01:42:26,270 figured out covers not available in some 2545 01:42:28,510 --> 01:42:27,590 areas offers for our port number not 2546 01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:28,520 currently active on t-mobile network 2547 01:42:30,940 --> 01:42:29,690 during congestion the fraction of 2548 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:30,950 customers use more than 30 bucks per 2549 01:42:34,060 --> 01:42:32,330 month may notice reduce beats video 2550 01:42:36,490 --> 01:42:34,070 streams DUP 240p no tethering C store 2551 01:42:39,790 --> 01:42:36,500 for details in terms and conditions to 2552 01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:39,800 give blanket amnesty to any service 2553 01:42:46,510 --> 01:42:43,730 member past a present who saw a UFO it 2554 01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:46,520 was told don't talk about it we hear a 2555 01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:48,890 lot of stories from veterans who say and 2556 01:42:52,780 --> 01:42:50,480 I'll tell you someone in my family it 2557 01:42:55,180 --> 01:42:52,790 the exact thing happened to them he was 2558 01:42:57,340 --> 01:42:55,190 an Air Force mechanic he and three other 2559 01:42:59,470 --> 01:42:57,350 mechanic sir our UFO came right down on 2560 01:43:01,810 --> 01:42:59,480 top of the plane they were fixing in the 2561 01:43:03,250 --> 01:43:01,820 middle of the night they he says the 2562 01:43:05,710 --> 01:43:03,260 food the most foolish thing I ever did 2563 01:43:07,150 --> 01:43:05,720 was I reported it he was locked up into 2564 01:43:09,940 --> 01:43:07,160 in a room that beaten they're a 2565 01:43:11,860 --> 01:43:09,950 brainwashed or anything just asked the 2566 01:43:14,830 --> 01:43:11,870 same questions over and over was given a 2567 01:43:16,750 --> 01:43:14,840 pile of paperwork to fill out until at 2568 01:43:19,330 --> 01:43:16,760 the end of four days he said okay we 2569 01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:19,340 give up and they they signed a statement 2570 01:43:22,450 --> 01:43:21,170 saying that it was a reentry vehicle 2571 01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:22,460 from Cape Canaveral this happened in 2572 01:43:26,410 --> 01:43:23,840 Charleston South Carolina 2573 01:43:29,380 --> 01:43:26,420 okay they wore them down okay which is a 2574 01:43:30,910 --> 01:43:29,390 well-known technique our listeners in 2575 01:43:34,420 --> 01:43:30,920 Charleston South Carolina 2576 01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:34,430 Charlestown is a town in Massachusetts 2577 01:43:38,860 --> 01:43:37,520 and I say oh I don't I just don't want 2578 01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:38,870 to lose anybody in South Carolina and 2579 01:43:45,580 --> 01:43:42,530 one one is that's from anyway you know 2580 01:43:47,530 --> 01:43:45,590 and so what happens is in other cases 2581 01:43:48,910 --> 01:43:47,540 where we've heard from veterans where 2582 01:43:50,710 --> 01:43:48,920 they said yeah I saw this but you know 2583 01:43:52,750 --> 01:43:50,720 my CEO came out and said don't ever talk 2584 01:43:55,150 --> 01:43:52,760 you know about this you know what and 2585 01:43:57,700 --> 01:43:55,160 and I guess all pilots have top-secret 2586 01:43:59,560 --> 01:43:57,710 clearance and they they you know fill 2587 01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:59,570 out non-disclosure forms and stuff like 2588 01:44:03,940 --> 01:44:01,760 that but what we're saying is you know 2589 01:44:05,740 --> 01:44:03,950 in this case only not looking at 2590 01:44:08,530 --> 01:44:05,750 top-secret weapons or anything like that 2591 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:08,540 in the case of what we call UFOs why 2592 01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:10,370 doesn't the military give blanket 2593 01:44:15,610 --> 01:44:12,770 amnesty to everyone who was told okay 2594 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:15,620 hey listen don't talk about this let 2595 01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:17,810 them talk now you let the f-18 pilots 2596 01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:20,490 talk let everyone else die I think 2597 01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:22,650 that you will be hit we will be hit with 2598 01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:26,130 a tidal wave of new information on UFOs 2599 01:44:31,670 --> 01:44:29,280 that will get us that much closer to 2600 01:44:32,690 --> 01:44:31,680 figuring out what this puzzle is you 2601 01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:32,700 know Steve what do you think of that 2602 01:44:38,750 --> 01:44:36,480 idea oh it's a great idea I'm you know I 2603 01:44:41,540 --> 01:44:38,760 have to tell you when I when I first 2604 01:44:43,820 --> 01:44:41,550 heard this I I was totally skeptical I 2605 01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:43,830 thought oh no here we go again you know 2606 01:44:50,780 --> 01:44:46,170 another another carrot dangling out 2607 01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:50,790 there and so but I'm actually I've 2608 01:44:54,830 --> 01:44:51,600 gotten to the point where I'm a little 2609 01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:54,840 bit optimistic now I'm still very very 2610 01:44:58,700 --> 01:44:57,330 very cautious to think that you know the 2611 01:45:00,410 --> 01:44:58,710 other shoe is gonna drop in something 2612 01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:00,420 more is gonna come out of this but I 2613 01:45:06,380 --> 01:45:05,010 really hope so yeah I mean that's what 2614 01:45:08,630 --> 01:45:06,390 we're all hoping for but see that's the 2615 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:08,640 thing is next week you know unless this 2616 01:45:14,750 --> 01:45:11,010 thing really has legs you know in the 2617 01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:14,760 media which it seems to have I know the 2618 01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:18,290 pilot was on CNN last night being right 2619 01:45:24,500 --> 01:45:22,110 you know if it survives into the first 2620 01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:24,510 couple weeks of the new year then maybe 2621 01:45:28,340 --> 01:45:25,920 we have something going here but as 2622 01:45:29,930 --> 01:45:28,350 Cobra said earlier you know you just 2623 01:45:31,940 --> 01:45:29,940 these things go out there and then they 2624 01:45:33,710 --> 01:45:31,950 just wait if you're in any kind of a 2625 01:45:35,330 --> 01:45:33,720 scandal or you're putting out news there 2626 01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:35,340 that you really don't want up there all 2627 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:36,690 you really have to do is wait and then 2628 01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:38,130 something else comes online especially 2629 01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:39,810 these days you know one of the 2630 01:45:43,190 --> 01:45:41,280 connections falls off a cliff or 2631 01:45:45,020 --> 01:45:43,200 something then BOOM yeah UFO story is 2632 01:45:46,220 --> 01:45:45,030 you know off unless you have always what 2633 01:45:50,900 --> 01:45:46,230 pushed off one of those could ask you 2634 01:45:55,660 --> 01:45:50,910 yeah exactly we can only hope that was 2635 01:46:03,530 --> 01:45:55,670 that was hurtful what I've seen amazing 2636 01:46:05,060 --> 01:46:03,540 so what do you think over I mean I think 2637 01:46:07,070 --> 01:46:05,070 you got your best chance in this 2638 01:46:08,750 --> 01:46:07,080 administration I will get that slide 2639 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:08,760 that one underneath the radar but what 2640 01:46:13,580 --> 01:46:10,890 are we gonna do what's maximally gonna 2641 01:46:16,010 --> 01:46:13,590 do on task force Griffin gonna do for 2642 01:46:17,870 --> 01:46:16,020 this what's gonna happen and I say if 2643 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:17,880 somebody wants to approach us and wants 2644 01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:19,770 to have that they should do it what do 2645 01:46:27,370 --> 01:46:26,020 yeah at least that nice thing keeping 2646 01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:27,380 something from us that's the thing is 2647 01:46:30,370 --> 01:46:29,090 that when that guy resigned the person 2648 01:46:31,930 --> 01:46:30,380 who was in charge of this one he 2649 01:46:34,570 --> 01:46:31,940 resigned he said two things that really 2650 01:46:36,580 --> 01:46:34,580 didn't just add together he said there 2651 01:46:39,070 --> 01:46:36,590 was opposition in the Pentagon to the 2652 01:46:40,390 --> 01:46:39,080 funding okay and then which we've 2653 01:46:42,580 --> 01:46:40,400 already determined twenty two million 2654 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:42,590 dollars is like nothing to the Pentagon 2655 01:46:46,900 --> 01:46:44,810 but he also said that a lot of the stuff 2656 01:46:48,940 --> 01:46:46,910 that they found was classified and the 2657 01:46:51,910 --> 01:46:48,950 military wanted to keep it classified so 2658 01:46:53,530 --> 01:46:51,920 to me it's like well if you you must 2659 01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:53,540 have spent the money pretty well if 2660 01:46:57,729 --> 01:46:55,040 you've got this whole boatload of 2661 01:46:59,170 --> 01:46:57,739 classified stuff on UFOs you know it 2662 01:47:01,930 --> 01:46:59,180 seemed to me how it didn't really kind 2663 01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:01,940 of jive oh you're absolutely correct but 2664 01:47:07,180 --> 01:47:04,880 my point is you have a pretty big form 2665 01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:07,190 right here for someone to contact you 2666 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:09,890 and give their thing and see if that 2667 01:47:13,780 --> 01:47:12,410 loosens it up did what did that brings I 2668 01:47:16,450 --> 01:47:13,790 think you should make yourself available 2669 01:47:18,610 --> 01:47:16,460 be the guy that collects that okay all 2670 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:18,620 right I will do that how do I know your 2671 01:47:22,930 --> 01:47:20,570 self out there Mac place you haven't 2672 01:47:24,900 --> 01:47:22,940 yourself in the last 20 30 years on this 2673 01:47:28,180 --> 01:47:24,910 subject you want to written a few books 2674 01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:28,190 hoax thank you you know shows and stuff 2675 01:47:35,229 --> 01:47:31,840 like that on sale everywhere yes right 2676 01:47:38,770 --> 01:47:35,239 I've got a question though okay what 2677 01:47:39,250 --> 01:47:38,780 happens if Mac disappears who's next in 2678 01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:39,260 line 2679 01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:43,760 1 1 of course why what do you try 2680 01:47:51,610 --> 01:47:47,090 where's 1 1 ok what happens if somebody 2681 01:47:54,250 --> 01:47:51,620 takes 1 1 2 oh now you're really Cobra 2682 01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:54,260 so we come first and Emily they wouldn't 2683 01:47:58,660 --> 01:47:56,210 ok I just I'm just checking the pecking 2684 01:47:59,620 --> 01:47:58,670 order here that's ok all right well then 2685 01:48:00,940 --> 01:47:59,630 what do you want to hear do you want to 2686 01:48:03,910 --> 01:48:00,950 do you want the new straight and you 2687 01:48:07,270 --> 01:48:03,920 wanted em okay me good right why 2688 01:48:10,810 --> 01:48:07,280 so I volunteer switch to take my place 2689 01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:10,820 he can I'm gonna do like wingman another 2690 01:48:14,830 --> 01:48:12,530 one of your great series of books I like 2691 01:48:16,380 --> 01:48:14,840 being an assailant heard the Unseld 2692 01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:16,390 everywhere I like being on that third 2693 01:48:20,380 --> 01:48:18,170 second and third tier 2694 01:48:23,860 --> 01:48:20,390 you know operating directly in my in my 2695 01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:23,870 lair okay all right there you go TMI 2696 01:48:28,330 --> 01:48:26,210 there Cobra Emily I think Emily should 2697 01:48:30,910 --> 01:48:28,340 be the face of the show you know I mean 2698 01:48:32,440 --> 01:48:30,920 look at us yeah well if you're gonna 2699 01:48:34,500 --> 01:48:32,450 pick a face out of what I'm looking at 2700 01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:34,510 yes Emily wins Handa 2701 01:48:43,950 --> 01:48:39,449 No if that is the Hobby Weinstein moment 2702 01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:43,960 category that piece of crap um Emily do 2703 01:48:47,879 --> 01:48:45,610 you think this idea would work I was 2704 01:48:50,220 --> 01:48:47,889 going on the Pentagon to give blanket 2705 01:48:53,310 --> 01:48:50,230 amnesty to service people who saw UFOs 2706 01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:53,320 were told to shut up I don't know that 2707 01:48:57,689 --> 01:48:55,570 it would work since we're talking about 2708 01:49:01,500 --> 01:48:57,699 the government but I love the idea I 2709 01:49:04,669 --> 01:49:01,510 would hope it would work right yeah it's 2710 01:49:07,859 --> 01:49:04,679 almost so many people coming out yes 2711 01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:07,869 like Cobras idea about I mean seriously 2712 01:49:12,509 --> 01:49:10,690 that you know a lot of people here the 2713 01:49:14,669 --> 01:49:12,519 show and this would be a great place for 2714 01:49:16,169 --> 01:49:14,679 a pilots to come forward and say this is 2715 01:49:18,569 --> 01:49:16,179 what happened yeah they can talk to you 2716 01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:18,579 off you know package a small statement 2717 01:49:23,009 --> 01:49:21,010 and if they can give some of the basic 2718 01:49:26,729 --> 01:49:23,019 facts see if anybody else reacts to it I 2719 01:49:28,890 --> 01:49:26,739 mean I I think it's a great form and it 2720 01:49:30,689 --> 01:49:28,900 may be the it may be the trick within 2721 01:49:32,490 --> 01:49:30,699 the within the whole thing yeah that's 2722 01:49:35,549 --> 01:49:32,500 gonna get some of the log jam to move 2723 01:49:37,890 --> 01:49:35,559 well why don't we just give out a an 2724 01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:37,900 email address should we use what what 2725 01:49:43,229 --> 01:49:41,130 email address should we use their backup 2726 01:49:44,819 --> 01:49:43,239 well we can always use the one that's 2727 01:49:49,410 --> 01:49:44,829 associated with your show operation 2728 01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:49,420 distant Thunder all one word yes because 2729 01:49:53,549 --> 01:49:51,010 it's the distance on a radio network 2730 01:49:55,339 --> 01:49:53,559 that you put together right there at 2731 01:49:58,370 --> 01:49:55,349 gmail.com okay 2732 01:50:02,390 --> 01:49:58,380 operation distant thunder at gmail.com 2733 01:50:05,009 --> 01:50:02,400 right word all lowercase at gmail.com 2734 01:50:07,379 --> 01:50:05,019 you can also do a google on the show 2735 01:50:09,810 --> 01:50:07,389 which I'm it's interesting how many hits 2736 01:50:11,549 --> 01:50:09,820 that we get on that Mac more news 2737 01:50:14,729 --> 01:50:11,559 military x-files show but operation 2738 01:50:18,089 --> 01:50:14,739 distant thunder is pretty easy to 2739 01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:18,099 remember distance on the operation 2740 01:50:22,169 --> 01:50:20,110 distant thunder at gmail.com you know if 2741 01:50:24,959 --> 01:50:22,179 you're a veteran and you'll have a story 2742 01:50:27,810 --> 01:50:24,969 to share with us please send us you know 2743 01:50:30,660 --> 01:50:27,820 your story and but we what we're doing 2744 01:50:32,819 --> 01:50:30,670 is we're calling on the Pentagon the 2745 01:50:34,379 --> 01:50:32,829 military establishment to just say and 2746 01:50:35,939 --> 01:50:34,389 how much would it take in a spit and 2747 01:50:38,399 --> 01:50:35,949 especially if you're gonna do it won't 2748 01:50:41,459 --> 01:50:38,409 be 280 million I can tell you that you 2749 01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:41,469 know just you know sure okay no one's 2750 01:50:46,919 --> 01:50:44,050 gonna be punished by coming out in 2751 01:50:49,129 --> 01:50:46,929 public in saying what they saw your for 2752 01:50:51,450 --> 01:50:49,139 wise not top-secret you 2753 01:50:53,459 --> 01:50:51,460 weapons or anything like that top-secret 2754 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:53,469 projects if you thought you saw a UFO 2755 01:51:00,660 --> 01:50:56,290 and your CEO said hey don't ever talk 2756 01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:00,670 about this you know if you get a amnesty 2757 01:51:03,899 --> 01:51:02,050 and you can come out and talk about it 2758 01:51:08,820 --> 01:51:03,909 just think of the stories we'd get Steve 2759 01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:08,830 you know what I mean exactly and we can 2760 01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:10,330 we know the history we know what's out 2761 01:51:13,979 --> 01:51:12,250 there but this is this is really the 2762 01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:13,989 time would be great for them to come 2763 01:51:18,780 --> 01:51:16,330 forward on the wave of what's going on 2764 01:51:22,140 --> 01:51:18,790 now and just perhaps we can build on it 2765 01:51:23,310 --> 01:51:22,150 and get something going all right well 2766 01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:23,320 listen I want to thank everyone for 2767 01:51:27,709 --> 01:51:25,570 joining us tonight too bad one one was 2768 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:27,719 in here he missed a potty 2769 01:51:31,770 --> 01:51:30,010 steve-arino up there in the bowl of 2770 01:51:35,010 --> 01:51:31,780 flakes thanks for joining us and adding 2771 01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:35,020 our expertise it's my pleasure okay 2772 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:40,449 Merry Christmas Happy New Year all of 2773 01:51:48,180 --> 01:51:46,650 you yes Emily thank you for joining us 2774 01:51:50,910 --> 01:51:48,190 my pleasure 2775 01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:50,920 okay and you know raising the skew as 2776 01:51:59,129 --> 01:51:57,250 they say of the show they go right right 2777 01:52:07,470 --> 01:51:59,139 by positive light he means a blonde is 2778 01:52:10,500 --> 01:52:07,480 that what you mean yeah thank you thank 2779 01:52:12,570 --> 01:52:10,510 you for joining us and we'll be on in a 2780 01:52:15,899 --> 01:52:12,580 couple weeks with one one we'll be back 2781 01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:15,909 with the rest of the gang so until then 2782 01:52:19,860 --> 01:52:18,130 thanks to everyone out there listening 2783 01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:19,870 to us and let's see where this goes you 2784 01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:21,520 know let's be the maybe this is the 2785 01:52:24,930 --> 01:52:23,130 breakthrough that we've been hoping for 2786 01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:24,940 let's see where it goes so you're 2787 01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:26,170 listening to you've been listening to 2788 01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:27,850 mechanoids military-style show here on 2789 01:52:32,189 --> 01:52:29,650 the distant Thunder rail network our 2790 01:52:34,919 --> 01:52:32,199 email is distant thunder at gmail.com 2791 01:52:38,580 --> 01:52:34,929 all one word operation distant thunder 2792 01:52:41,250 --> 01:52:38,590 operation distant thunder operation 2793 01:52:42,750 --> 01:52:41,260 distant fund at gmail.com I never write 2794 01:52:46,350 --> 01:52:42,760 myself there that's why I don't have to 2795 01:52:49,740 --> 01:52:46,360 us you know operation distant thunder at 2796 01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:49,750 gmail.com drop us a line and until we 2797 01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:53,170 see you next week have a good holiday be 2798 01:52:58,070 --> 01:52:55,530 safe be happy and 2799 01:52:58,760 --> 01:52:58,080 when we go out to eat we never agree on 2800 01:53:01,550 --> 01:52:58,770 where to go 2801 01:53:03,230 --> 01:53:01,560 what burgers pizza tacos it is the one 2802 01:53:05,390 --> 01:53:03,240 thing we do agree on is we all want 2803 01:53:08,450 --> 01:53:05,400 unlimited high-speed data that's why we 2804 01:53:10,220 --> 01:53:08,460 switch to metro pcs stop by metro pcs 2805 01:53:12,530 --> 01:53:10,230 with the whole family and get four lines 2806 01:53:15,170 --> 01:53:12,540 with unlimited LTE data for just $100 2807 01:53:16,430 --> 01:53:15,180 period metro pcs Wireless figured out 2808 01:53:17,810 --> 01:53:16,440 covers not available in some areas 2809 01:53:18,890 --> 01:53:17,820 offers for our port number not currently 2810 01:53:19,970 --> 01:53:18,900 active on t-mobile network during 2811 01:53:20,900 --> 01:53:19,980 congestion the fraction of customers 2812 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:20,910 used more than thirty five gigs per 2813 01:53:24,020 --> 01:53:22,290 month may notice reduced beats video